JFK: THE CASE FOR CONSPIRACY.

[Bruce Patrick Brychek]

JFK: THE CASE FOR CONSPIRACY,
The Assassination And Medical Evidence,
* Proof of Conspiracy,
* Exclusive Films,
* Autopsy Photos.

Produced by Mr. Robert J. Groden,
Chief Photographic Consultant to the
House Select Committee On Assassinations and
Technical Advisor to Oliver Stone's "JFK."

"November 22, 1963."
"Now you can see for yourself what really happened on November 22, 1963. This program takes you back in time to Dealey Plaza where you will become a witness to 'the crime of the century."

"Robert J. Groden is acknowledged as the world's foremost authority on the photographic evidence relating to JFK'S assassination. Mr Groden was technical advisor to Oliver Stone's 'JFK."

"Here, for the first time, are his optically enhanced films and photographs from that dark day and the investigation and cover-up that followed. Mastered from Mr. Groden's original materials."

"Bob Groden's films are the best proof of the conspiracy to kill President Kennedy."

Oliver Stone, Director JFK.

COMMENTARY: Many have heard of Robert J. Groden. Fewer have studied his Excellent Work. I am surprised by how few JFK Researcher's
have actually watched this DVD, or studied Mr. Groden's works. To "Old Pro
JFK Researcher," and Newcomers alike this, coupled with Mr. Wim Dankbaar's work, are truly good starting points.

Mr. Robert J. Groden has dedicated his life to his exhaustive JFK Assassination Research. Mr. Groden regularly communicates with Mr. Wim Dankbaar, and has been in contact with me.

Comments both Pro and Con are invited.

Respectfully,
Bruce Patrick Brychek.

[Paul]

Hi Bruce,

I have that one and also have the other one you are mentioning in the other post...
Both are excellent!

Gr. Paul.

BTW: Bruce, welcome back! I want you to read my and Bob's apologies here: http://www.jfkmurdersolved.com/phpBB2/v ... ight=#1153

Also: you have to catch-up some things what happened last week at Lancer I guess!

[Cory Dodson]

I have read Groden's JFK: The Case for Conspiracy and it is an amazing book.

I reccomend it to anyone who is interested in the assassinastion even if you don't know what you believe yet.

It pinpoints the flaws within the Warren Commission and it also does a good job explaining the conspiracy.

[Bruce Patrick Brychek]

Dear Mr. ?Wim Dankbaar, and Fellow JFK Forum Members,

I have studied, and re-studied Robert J. Groden's works. And I have communicated with him many times.

Garrison, Groden, Marrs, and Dankbaar. In law school we call people like these:

"................authorities."

Has anybody reviewed Robert J. Groden's JFK: The Case for Conspiracy yet ?

Resspectfully,
Bruce Patrick Brychek.

[Bruce Patrick Brychek]

11.26.2009Dear JFK Murder Solved Forum Members and Readers:05.22.2006 - I originally Posted this Headline about the Work Product of Robert J. Groden, who I greatlyadmire overall.Jim Garrison, Mark Lane, Robert J. Groden, David Lifton, and Willem Dankbaar are The Major FoundingFathers of JFK Research and Writing. Oliver Stone also certainly deserves great credit for his Timelessmovie, JFK, which encompasses much of the work of some the above. My Opinion.The Serious JFK Researcher, Student, and Writer would be well served to intelligently review and study theEarly Work Product of Robert J. Groden. What he, and other early JFK Pioneers listed above were able to accomplish, still is critical and important. My Opinion.This is worth review even more so today. Since I posted this Bob and other JFK Forum Members have developed other threads along this line.As always, I strongly recommend that you first read, research, and study material completely yourself abouta Subject Matter, and then formulate your own Opinions and Theories.Any additional analyses, interviews, investigations, readings, research, studies, thoughts, or writings on any aspect of this Subject Matter ?Bear in mind that we are trying to attract and educate a Whole New Generation of JFK Researchers who may not be as well versed as you.Comments ?Respectfully,BB.

[Bruce Patrick Brychek]

08.14.2010Dear JFK Murder Solved Forum Members and Readers:05.22.2006 - I originally Posted this Headline: JFK: The Case for Conspiracy, a video documentary produced by Robert J. Groden.While all of Groden's work is meritorious and definitely stands on its own, I think that it certainly goes handin hand with all of the work done by Jim Garrison. My Opinion.Robert J. Groden's video documentary: JFK: The Case For Conspiracy is 113 minutes in length.Jim Garrison's video documentary: JFK Assassination: The Jim Garrison Tapes is 90 minutes in length.The Serious JFK Researcer, Student, and Writer would be well served to review and study the Videos of bothRobert J. Groden, and Jim Garrison. They were cutting edge, revolutionary, and timely in their very earlyefforts.As always, I strongly recommend that your first read, research, and study material completely yourself abouta Subject Matter, and then formulate your own Opinions and Theories.Any additional analyses, interviews, investigations, readings, research, studies, thoughts, or writings on any aspect of this Subject Matter ?Bear in mind that we are trying to attract and educate a Whole New Generation of JFK Researchers who may not be as well versed as you.Comments ?Respectfully,BB.

[Kit Carp]

I agree that Mr. Groden's two pictorials, on the assassination, and on Oswald, are both excellent works. There just arent a lot of books that show a lot of the captured visuals from that and subsequent days, and his work fills a void.Likewise, his work with the Z film has brought the case forcefully to the forefront. Where would we be, if the film never made it in any form to the public eye?I've got his dvd, as well as both books, and consider them basic referance materials I couldnt do without.He lately has been having trouble with the law and those in power in Dallas. I encourage anyone who believes Bob should be able to buy a permit and sell his books on "Dealy ground zero" to write the authorities in Dallas, and ask them what country we live in...The United States, where freedom of expression and the press are granted by the Constitution, or some fascist state, where it's illegal to express what you believe.After all, the 6th floor museum can hock what amounts to untrue propaganda. Our own governement's House committee already has said it believed Kennedy was a victim of a conspiracy. What kind of a country do we live in, where the truth is not allowed to be told and spread, in a peaceful, legal manner, on our open city parks?Kit.

[Bruce Patrick Brychek]

08.15.2010Dear JFK Murder Solved Forum Members and Readers:Kit - A sincere Welcome to the JFK Forum. I thoroughly appreciated, and re-read your Horne evaluations. You join Phil Dragoo, who has been providing a complete, analytical dialogue over the entire Five Volume Work Product, as Phil completes his evaluations volume by volume.Phil and Kit perhaps you should create a New Headline Post and Re-Post your entire group of analytical pieces on Horne thus making it easier for everyone to view your entire collected wisdom. I am books behind in myown reading, and admit that I need to read the entire Horne Masterpiece. Phil and Kit you certainly have provided additional impetus to me.Kit - I also agree with you strongly that Groden's works are Basic Reference Material. A simple, yet powerful statement. For me, Garrison, Lane, Lifton, Groden, and Dankbaar are CORNERSTONES OF THE JFK WORKS.Certainly, Horne's Masterpiece will gain great acceptance.I also agree with you about Groden's troubles in Dallas, Texas. Judyth Vary Baker created a website article about this, and after a month, only Phil Dragoo and I had registered comments in support thereof.Kit - The curve in the road began 11.22.1963. The Declaration of Independence, The Constitution, The Bill of Rights, and the Scam of Democracy are taught in schools along with the Lee Harvey Oswald did it alone theory. Only now does it leak out that Roosevelt, Churchill and others knew of the pendency of Pearl Harbor. Man's Inhumanity To Man, and The Meglo-Maniac Desire For Power Knows No Equal. My Opinion.The Patriot Act, Pre-Emptive Strikes and Wars, Control of the Population, Genocide, and Population Control are the Real Order of the Ruling Elite for today and beyond. FALSE FLAG OPERATIONS will also greatly increaseas 09.11.2001 WORKED SO WELL. Welcome to the 22nd century. My Opinion.Meanwhile Obama swims in Florida and states that things are better in The Gulf.Kit - I really appreciate the fact that you have actually read and studied written works, and viewed and analyzed filmed works, and then report back on them. Thank You.As always, I strongly recommend that you first read, research, and study material completely yourself abouta Subject Matter, and then formulate your own Opinions and Theories.Any additional analyses, interviews, investigations, readings, research, studies, thoughts, or writings on any aspect of this Subject Matter ?Bear in mind that we are trying to attract and educate a Whole New Generation of JFK Researchers who may not be as well versed as you.Comments ?Respectfully,BB.

[Kit Carp]

Thank you for your kind words, Mr. Brycheck.I'd be happy to start a thread about Douglas Horne's most excellent work.Your comment about the "curve in the road" brings to mind to me what I have for a long time considered the "bookends" in the assassination of President Kennedy. As President Eisenhower left office, he gave us a warning of things to come.***Eisenhower's Farewell Address to the NationJanuary 17, 1961"...But threats, new in kind or degree, constantly arise. Of these, I mention two only.......This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence – economic, political, even spiritual – is felt in every city, every Statehouse, every office of the Federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development. Yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources and livelihood are all involved; so is the very structure of our society. In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist. We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together." ***Then, exactly one month after that terrible day in Dallas, on the one month anniversery of the assassination, when the USA and the world were still pondering what happened, while the investigation was ongoing and much of the world mourned....brave and astute Harry Truman spoke up in an article which was printed in the morning edition of the Washington Post on December 22, 1963. Mysteriously, and tellingly, this was not picked up and run with, by the rest of the newspapers and magazines of this nation. This was our popular ex-president's opinion. Why wasnt it important enough to run throughout the country?In it, ex-President Truman does his best to dare to skate close to the truth. When I think of the date, it gives me goosebumps every time I read this.***Limit CIA Role To IntelligenceBy Harry S TrumanCopyright, 1963, by Harry S Truman" INDEPENDENCE, MO., Dec. 21 — I think it has become necessary to take another look at the purpose and operations of our Central Intelligence Agency—CIA. At least, I would like to submit here the original reason why I thought it necessary to organize this Agency during my Administration, what I expected it to do and how it was to operate as an arm of the President. I think it is fairly obvious that by and large a President's performance in office is as effective as the information he has and the information he gets. That is to say, that assuming the President himself possesses a knowledge of our history, a sensitive understanding of our institutions, and an insight into the needs and aspirations of the people, he needs to have available to him the most accurate and up-to-the-minute information on what is going on everywhere in the world, and particularly of the trends and developments in all the danger spots in the contest between East and West. This is an immense task and requires a special kind of an intelligence facility. Of course, every President has available to him all the information gathered by the many intelligence agencies already in existence. The Departments of State, Defense, Commerce, Interior and others are constantly engaged in extensive information gathering and have done excellent work. But their collective information reached the President all too frequently in conflicting conclusions. At times, the intelligence reports tended to be slanted to conform to established positions of a given department. This becomes confusing and what's worse, such intelligence is of little use to a President in reaching the right decisions. Therefore, I decided to set up a special organization charged with the collection of all intelligence reports from every available source, and to have those reports reach me as President without department "treatment" or interpretations. I wanted and needed the information in its "natural raw" state and in as comprehensive a volume as it was practical for me to make full use of it. But the most important thing about this move was to guard against the chance of intelligence being used to influence or to lead the President into unwise decisions—and I thought it was necessary that the President do his own thinking and evaluating. Since the responsibility for decision making was his—then he had to be sure that no information is kept from him for whatever reason at the discretion of any one department or agency, or that unpleasant facts be kept from him. There are always those who would want to shield a President from bad news or misjudgments to spare him from being "upset." For some time I have been disturbed by the way CIA has been diverted from its original assignment .It has become an operational and at times a policy-making arm of the Government. This has led to trouble and may have compounded our difficulties in several explosive areas. I never had any thought that when I set up the CIA that it would be injected into peacetime cloak and dagger operations. Some of the complications and embarrassment I think we have experienced are in part attributable to the fact that this quiet intelligence arm of the President has been so removed from its intended role that it is being interpreted as a symbol of sinister and mysterious foreign intrigue—and a subject for cold war enemy propaganda. With all the nonsense put out by Communist propaganda about "Yankee imperialism," "exploitive capitalism," "war-mongering," "monopolists," in their name-calling assault on the West, the last thing we needed was for the CIA to be seized upon as something akin to a subverting influence in the affairs of other people. I well knew the first temporary director of the CIA, Adm. Souers, and the later permanent directors of the CIA, Gen. Hoyt Vandenberg and Allen Dulles. These were men of the highest character, patriotism and integrity—and I assume this is true of all those who continue in charge. But there are now some searching questions that need to be answered. I, therefore, would like to see the CIA be restored to its original assignment as the intelligence arm of the President, and that whatever else it can properly perform in that special field—and that its operational duties be terminated or properly used elsewhere. We have grown up as a nation, respected for our free institutions and for our ability to maintain a free and open society. There is something about the way the CIA has been functioning that is casting a shadow over our historic position and I feel that we need to correct it."***We sometimes forget that the truth about what happened to President Kennedy is not so very buried and hard to figure out as we might think. Most of the answers sit right before us, in plain sight, for those who research our own recent history, and pay attention to those who were brave enough to actually speak the truth.Freedom has away of ringing. When Liberty is compromised, when dark forces in the form of power and greed take away the basic freedoms the Constitution has granted us, we need to be cognizant of what has actually happened, and be ready to do our own little parts, in whatever way we can, to regain our most basic rights as Americans.Good night and God Bless,Kit Carp

[ThomZajac]

Excellent post, Kit- many thanks!Thom