List of Withheld JFK Assassination Documents

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JDThomas
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List of Withheld JFK Assassination Documents

Post by JDThomas » Thu Feb 04, 2016 8:46 pm

http://whowhatwhy.org/wp-content/upload ... ted.pdfThe list was obtained in a Freedom of Information Act request by FOIA specialist Michael RavnitzkyI'm told that a small portion of these will not be released in 2017, one of which concerns George DeMohrenschildt

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Re: List of Withheld JFK Assassination Documents

Post by Bob Jonas » Fri Feb 05, 2016 3:05 am

There are a few documents that deal with David Ferrie. Still looking at the list for more.

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Re: List of Withheld JFK Assassination Documents

Post by Tom Bigg » Fri Feb 05, 2016 2:43 pm

There is no reason for these to be withheld if the people could handle it....Apparently the intelligence people and politicians don't think we can. There is a scene in the Stone movie "Nixon" where he goes into a private meeting with the CIA head wanting access to the secret archive on the "Bay of Pigs" thing. Of course they are not going to give that away.


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Re: List of Withheld JFK Assassination Documents

Post by Tommy Wilkens » Fri Feb 05, 2016 6:19 pm

JDThomas that does not surprise me one bit.Once the real truth emerges of de Mohrenschildt's role the complete collapse of what really had happened will occur .And there are still people alive that know this very well.It's why de Mohrenschildt was eliminated because he was ready to finally open up and tell the real truth.When he couldn't get the assistance he needed that final day in Brussels from the Russians he knew his time was short . What we found in our close study of George de Mohrenschildt was that it's a very high probability that he was assigned by the Central Intelligence Agency to befriend Lee Oswald and slowly indoctrinate him and influence him .Maneuver Lee Oswald into a position that in the end there was no way out.The trap had been set and he was the bait.We found a personal letter from de Mohrenschildt to Willem Oltmans that said,"Lee would do anything I had asked him to do.If I had asked him to kill John Kennedy he would have done it without question".And in the end de Mohrenschild had expressed a great sadness of what had in the end happened to Lee Oswald and a deep feeling of guilt. He openly had said “what a horrible shame it was that Lee had been put into the position that history had sealed for him”. He was innocent of what he had been accused of ...........................

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Re: List of Withheld JFK Assassination Documents

Post by Tom Bigg » Sat Feb 06, 2016 4:51 pm

Those who wish to look at the list should be forewarned that it’s a bit like looking at hieroglyphics. Most of the names and brief references will mean something only to a very few.Among the documents that caught our eye:• Lee Harvey Oswald’s CIA “201 File.” 201 files contain personality assessments• Records on David Morales, David Atlee Phillips, E. Howard Hunt, William King Harvey and others considered by top researchers prime suspects for participation in the planning and implementation of Kennedy’s murder.• Documents on New Orleans oddball David Ferrie, District Attorney Jim Garrison, Jackie Kennedy, members of the Warren Commission staff, Jack Ruby, various anti-Castro Cubans and much much more.• Tax returns of Michael Paine, who with his wife Ruth provided housing and more for the Oswalds — Ruth also got Lee a job in the Texas School Book Depository — from which he purportedly shot Kennedy; Michael worked for the defense contractor Bell Helicopter.The OP mentions Oswald's 201 file from the CIA, and that it holds "personality assessments".A 201 file is a military member's personnel file.Tommy, you said this: "What we found in our close study of George de Mohrenschildt was that it's a very high probability that he was assigned by the Central Intelligence Agency to befriend Lee Oswald and slowly indoctrinate him and influence him .Maneuver Lee Oswald into a position that in the end there was no way out.The trap had been set and he was the bait.We found a personal letter from de Mohrenschildt to Willem Oltmans that said,"Lee would do anything I had asked him to do.If I had asked him to kill John Kennedy he would have done it without question."Then why wasn't deM in Dallas on the fateful day, instead of on "business" in Haiti?

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Re: List of Withheld JFK Assassination Documents

Post by Tommy Wilkens » Sun Feb 07, 2016 6:49 pm

Thanks Tom Bigg for your question.Tom George de Mohrenschildt was pulled out of Dallas just months before the assassination took place because he needed distance between himself and Lee Oswald. In Willem Oltmans private diaries we found a very interesting note that had been written by George de Mohrenschildt.The note said he had slipped into Dallas 2 weeks prior to Kennedy's assassination. de Mohrenschildt helped to set up the trap.He positioned Lee Oswald as the patsy and it worked. He was a master of multiple personalities and a seasoned undercover intelligence operative that could create an unbreakable cover story for almost any situation. . Always two steps ahead always playing his role out in the shadows. Denial of any involvement was his standard. Traveling the world ostensibly as an international businessman allowed de Mohrenschildt entry into some of the most dangerous places in the world were few would even dare to venture. Records of de Mohrenschildt's overseas ventures would reveal a pattern that placed him in cities and countries just before a coup or an invasion or an assassination or a covert or overt operation was unfolding. And all were past off as a mere coincidence. George de Mohrenschildt was considered by many as brutal and dangerous and was the go to man in some of the most clandestine operations throughout the Caribbean and Central America in the 1960's. His involvement in Haiti the tiny corrupt island nation only a few short miles off the coast of Cuba is well documented and along with his close dealings with the Haitian dictator Francois 'Papa Doc' Duvalier are still to today shrouded in mystery and intrigue. It's believed by many that de Mohrenschildt was positioned in Haiti by the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency to set up a coup d' etat and over take the Duvalier government and replace it with a new hand picked leader who was a shrewd Haitian politician banker by the name of Clemard Joseph Charles the President and principle share holder of the Bank Commercial of Port-au-Prince,Haiti.

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Re: List of Withheld JFK Assassination Documents

Post by Bob » Sun Feb 07, 2016 7:21 pm

Speaking of George de Mohrenshildt and Haiti, go to 24:45 of part one of Altered History: Exposing Deceit and Deception in the JFK Assassination Medical Evidence by Doug Horne below. There, Horne talks about a 1968 Army Intelligence report in which a Haitian named Clemard Joseph Charles states that de Mohrenshildt had a close association with LBJ, while he was VP under JFK. http://fff.org/explore-freedom/article/ ... ce-part-1/

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Re: List of Withheld JFK Assassination Documents

Post by AlanD » Fri Feb 12, 2016 12:27 pm

Being British not exactly sure what a 201 file is , but if LHO had one from the CIA , does that not call into question the whole lone nut scenario. Particularly if the dates in the file pre-date the assassination date. Did not the Fletcher Prouty character in the film JFK say LHO had a 201 file but that it was lost. Come 2017 we may find out a little more of the murky world of Mr Oswald.

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Re: List of Withheld JFK Assassination Documents

Post by JDThomas » Fri Feb 12, 2016 1:09 pm

Alan, going from memory (so I stand to be corrected) Oswald's 201 file was opened by the CIA after he returned from the Soviet Union.A 201 file is a general profile file about a person of interest and in itself is unlikely to contain anything of classified. I understand that individuals could have more than 1 such file or fresh files opened after a period of time. The point is the CIA used it to explain that he was not a person of interest before this time.This does beg the question - why were they not interested in him earlier if he was a marine, working on U-2 spy plane operations (which involved CIA), knowing their secret codes for the flight planes, yet at the same time is learning Russian language and is apparently subscribing to Pravda?Devil's advocate may ask that the CIA may not have known all of this, if the military did not bring this info to their attenion - so what in the world were the Office of Naval Intelligence doing if they did not identify Oswald?Could it possibly be because as we now know, the CIA had a false defector program working at this time involving former marines, which obviously required ONI co-operation?-------------------------------------Bill Kelly wrote an article recently stating that most government info on Oswald has likely been cleansed and that there will be little of interest in the remaining sealed files. He sees that main hope for new information comimng from info that has been misfiled, unredacted duplicates improperly stored or in the personal effects of ex agency or military personnel such as occurred with the Air Force 1 tapes.Most remaining sealed files are probably so are those that make the Government look bad, rather than for anything Top Secret.

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