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No Smoking Gun? The JFK Files Are On Fire!By Roger Stone and Saint John Hunt Stone Cold TruthNovember 13, 2017On Thursday, October 26th I urged the President to release the balance of the classified documents regarding the assassination of Pres. John F Kennedy, after a phone conversation with my friend, colleague and sometimes co-author Saint John Hunt. Only days later the president would make the courageous decision to release this vital material.Mainstream media is downplaying the importance of the newly released JFK files. Does that surprise you? USA TODAY, MSN.COM, FOX NEWS, U.K. TELEGRAPH and NBC NEWS are among the many mainstream news organizations to headline their report on the files, stating that there is “no smoking gun” in the newly released JFK files. How quickly they drew their conclusions only after hours of the release. We have read through hundreds of the files, both the October and the November files and I can tell you that this is a monumental effort to properly access the information in these files. Some of the more damning files are as follows: The Soviet Union had proof that LBJ was behind Kennedy’s assassination. Soviet spies believed that President Lyndon B. Johnson was behind the death of the John F. Kennedy, according to an FBI document.Sources told the American agency that officials in the USSR “believed there was some well-organized conspiracy on the part of the ‘ultra right’” that led to the 1963 assassination, with later claims that there was evidence to show the vice president’s involvement. The claim was part of a memo on the Soviet reaction to Kennedy’s death forwarded from then-FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover to Johnson’s assistant Marvin Watson in 1966 and now published as part of the newly unveiled JFK archive. “Our sources added that in instructions from Moscow, it was indicated that ‘now’ the KGB was in possession of data purporting to indicate President Johnson was responsible for the assassination of the late President John F. Kennedy,” one part of the document reads, citing intelligence from 1965. Another related memo in the files tells that less than a year after President Kennedy was assassinated, a Soviet diplomat was quoted as saying that he believed a “person as nervous as” Lee Harvey Oswald wasn’t capable of the attack. The remark from Soviet Consul Pavel Yatskov in Mexico City appears in the latest batch of JFK files released Friday. “I met Oswald here. He stormed into my office and wanted me to introduce and recommend him to the Cubans,” Yatskov said, according to the July 1964 memo from then-CIA Deputy Director Richard Helms. “He told me that he had lived in the USSR. I told him that I would have had to check before I could recommend him. “He was nervous and his hands trembled, and he stormed out of my office. I don’t believe that a person as nervous as Oswald, whose hands trembled could have accurately fired a rifle.”Helms was at the time in charge of conducting the investigation of Oswald’s activities overseas. The source of the Yatskov statement was described as a “confidential contact of this Agency in Mexico City who is believed to be reliable.”LBJ and the KKK In an internal FBI report from May 1964, an informant told the FBI that the Ku Klux Klan said it “had documented proof that President Johnson was formerly a member of the Klan in Texas during the early days of his political career.” “ Ned Touchstone, editor of “The Councilor”, has been identified by a confidential informant (NO 1223-R) as a member of the Original Knights of the Ku Klux Klan. The source advised in December 1963, that Touchstone claimed that the Klan had documented proof that President Johnson was formerly a member of the Klan in Texas during the early days of his political career.” This may not have direct bearing on JFK’s death but it serves to show what a scumbag Johnson was.CIA lied about relationship with OswaldWhen Dick Helms (CIA boss) was questioned about Oswald this is what was said:BELIN: Is there any information involved with the assassination of President Kennedy which in any way shows that Lee Harvey Oswald was in some way a CIA agent or an agent… “Agent of the FBI or any other Government agency?” Here is how Helms responds: “my recollection is not all that precise. I believe that Mr. Hoover testified that he had not been an agent of theirs either. He was certainly not an agent of the CIA. He was certainly never used by the CIA.”Helms was lying about Oswald’s relationship with the CIA and the FBI. In a confidential memo from John McCone (Director of CIA) to James Rowley (Chief of the Secret Service) dated March 3, 1964 McCone writes: “In response to the request made by your office on 24 Feb 1964 re: Lee Oswald’s activities and assignments on behalf of this agency (CIA) and Federal Bureau of Investigation, there follows a narrative summary of the internal subversive activities of the Oswald subject.”“I recommend that unless the Commission makes a specific request for specific information contained herein, that this information not be volunteered.”“Oswald subject was trained by this agency (CIA), under cover of the Office of Naval Intelligence, for Soviet assignments. During preliminary training in 1957, subject was active in aerial reconnaissance of Mainland China and maintained a security clearance up to ‘confidential’ level.”“Subject received additional indoctrination at our Camp Peary site from Sept. 6, to October 17, 1958, and participated in a few relatively minor assignments until arrangements were made for his entry into the Soviet Union on Sept. 1959. While in the Soviet Union, he was on special assignment in the area of Minsk.” This little-known memo answers the question of Oswald’s CIA and FBI connections. According to the once-classified CIA files on Oswald, they show that the CIA had opened a file on Oswald in 1959. The file was held by the agency’s Office of Security in December 1959, shortly after Oswald moved to the Soviet Union. This file was controlled by Betty Egerter, an aide to counterintelligence chief Angleton, who worked in an office called the Special Investigations Group. All information about Oswald received by the State Department, FBI and Office of Naval Intelligence was funneled to the SIG. Only a year later, on Dec. 9, 1960, did Egerter open a “201 file” on Oswald. A ‘201’ file is a personality assessment file.Yet mainstream media such as the UK Telegraph, report that “Lee Harvey Oswald had no links to CIA.” As proof, the UK Telegraph reported that a 1975 CIA memo shows that the agency scoured its own records to see if Oswald was connected with it in “any conceivable way.” Stating that “an exhaustive search found no links whatsoever with the CIA or any other US government agency.” The AP via boston.com also stated Government documents newly released Friday regarding John F. Kennedy’s assassination say allegations that Lee Harvey Oswald was connected to the CIA were “totally unfounded.”Referring to Nicholas Katzenbach, the deputy attorney general at the time, Hoover dictated: “The thing I am concerned about, and so is Mr. Katzenbach, is having something issued so we can convince the public that Oswald is the real assassin.” Katzenbach is known from previously released documents to have shared Hoover’s concern, writing in a memo the next day, on Nov. 25, 1963, that “the public must be satisfied that Oswald was the assassin; that he did not have confederates who are still at large; and that evidence was such that he would have been convicted at trial.”E Howard Hunt’s secret diaryThe missing handwritten “diary” of E Howard Hunt is buried in the October release of the JFK files. This is only, I believe, a portion of his infamous diary, and not the entire writing. As one might recall that during the first few months when the Watergate scandal was barely making headlines, there was a dramatic and dangerous campaign by Hunt and his wife Dorothy to blackmail President Nixon into paying money to Hunt for his silence. In Nixon’s own words captured in oval office recordings to his inner circle, he stresses that “Hunt knows too much.” How much did Hunt know and what did he know? Nixon placed a minimum value on Hunt’s threats to go public at over one million dollars. That may not sound like very much by today’s standards but by today’s standards, the 1972 million is now, in 2017, half a billion dollars. To be exact, it’s $585.61 million.So what did Hunt have on Nixon? Well in the 9-page “diary” Hunt chronicles the Nixon approved, and at that time unknown CIA and Mafia plan to assassinate, among others, Fidel Castro. Back in 1972, this was political dynamite and would have caused Nixon his place in the upcoming November presidential election. Much of the “diary” is hard to read but I have worked out a great deal of what Hunt chronicled. Money was paid to Hunt but in Dec. 1972 as Dorothy Hunt was on her way to Chicago to hold a press conference with CBS anchor Michelle Clark, the plane, United 553, crashed into a residential area near Midway Airport killing Dorothy Hunt. Mrs. Hunt was carrying copies of the “diary”. Officials placed the blame for the crash on “pilot error.” On closer examination of events, it’s clear that the crash was deliberate. The day after the crash Nixon appointed White House aide Egil Krogh (Hunt’s boss in the secret “plumbers” team) Undersecretary of Transportation, supervising the NTSB and FAA investigations into the crash. One week later Nixon appointed his Deputy Assistant Alexander Butterfield head of the FAA. Five weeks after that Dwight Chapin, Nixon’s appointment secretary became a top executive at United Airlines. In the days following the crash Hunt pled guilty to charges stemming from Watergate and the blackmail threats stopped.FILES NOT YET RELEASEDOswald’s complete 201 file. This contains hundreds of pages on Oswald from the CIA, ONI, FBI and other agencies. See Oswald 201 File (201-289248) – Mary Ferrell FoundationFiles on George Johanides, James Angleton, and David Morales are some of the most important ones. Many more files are still not available, and one can only hope that President Trump will push for their release in the days to come. Stay tuned for more “non-smoking gun” files as we continue our investigation.Un-redact the restThis is the final cash of documents that are scheduled for release under the 1992 JFK documents Act passed by the Congress. President Trump should now order the National Archives to go back and review all of the documents previously released using the same standard he ordered in the release of these confidential files; material that can be redacted or withheld must regard people still living.Sources:https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/jfk-a ... 1Reprinted with permission from Stone Cold Truth.
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Thanks for posting Tom. I read somewhere that the CIA had embedded reporters in all the major US news outlets, print and media. It would make sense that none of these bits of information has gotten any sort of accurate coverage. Very much like the 400,000 preventable deaths caused yearly by medical errors, preventable hospital infections and preventable prescription drug interactions get no press either. That's a 911 death toll twice a week, but no mention of it. Just plenty of hospital and drug commercials all day and night long.And an agency that could murrder it's political opponenets like JFK/MLK/RFK, crash a plane full of innocent people to kill Mrs. Hunt, and start overseas conflicts that kill millions of innocent non combatants, could easily in my mind create a 911 to get us back to war, their most profitable enterprise. I feel that all our members have a pretty good idea of who shot (and orchestrated the shooting and coverup of the shooting) of JFK and why. In some ways releasing the information with such a limited media response is a greater example of their power and ability to steer our society in ways that they choose to do.
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bobspez wrote:Thanks for posting Tom. I read somewhere that the CIA had embedded reporters in all the major US news outlets, print and media. It would make sense that none of these bits of information has gotten any sort of accurate coverage. Very much like the 400,000 preventable deaths caused yearly by medical errors, preventable hospital infections and preventable prescription drug interactions get no press either. That's a 911 death toll twice a week, but no mention of it. Just plenty of hospital and drug commercials all day and night long.And an agency that could murrder it's political opponenets like JFK/MLK/RFK, crash a plane full of innocent people to kill Mrs. Hunt, and start overseas conflicts that kill millions of innocent non combatants, could easily in my mind create a 911 to get us back to war, their most profitable enterprise. I feel that all our members have a pretty good idea of who shot (and orchestrated the shooting and coverup of the shooting) of JFK and why. In some ways releasing the information with such a limited media response is a greater example of their power and ability to steer our society in ways that they choose to do.Bob, the embedding of CIA operatives into the media was called Operation Mockingbird. Carl Bernstein wrote an article in the 70s about that situation for Rolling Stone magazine. Ironically, his writing partner in All the President's Men, Bob Woodward, has all the markings of being a CIA plant, especially if you look at his background in Naval intelligence.CIA and the MediaBy Carl BernsteinIn 1953, Joseph Alsop, then one of America’s leading syndicated columnists, went to the Philippines to cover an election. He did not go because he was asked to do so by his syndicate. He did not go because he was asked to do so by the newspapers that printed his column. He went at the request of the CIA.Alsop is one of more than 400 American journalists who in the past twenty-five years have secretly carried out assignments for the Central Intelligence Agency, according to documents on file at CIA headquarters.Some of these journalists’ relationships with the Agency were tacit; some were explicit. There was cooperation, accommodation and overlap. Journalists provided a full range of clandestine services -- from simple intelligence gathering to serving as go-betweens with spies in Communist countries. Reporters shared their notebooks with the CIA. Editors shared their staffs. Some of the journalists were Pulitzer Prize winners, distinguished reporters who considered themselves ambassadors-without-portfolio for their country. Most were less exalted: foreign correspondents who found that their association with the Agency helped their work; stringers and freelancers who were as interested it the derring-do of the spy business as in filing articles, and, the smallest category, full-time CIA employees masquerading as journalists abroad. In many instances, CIA documents show, journalists were engaged to perform tasks for the CIA with the consent of the managements America’s leading news organizations.The history of the CIA’s involvement with the American press continues to be shrouded by an official policy of obfuscation and deception...Among the executives who lent their cooperation to the Agency were William Paley of the Columbia Broadcasting System, Henry Luce of Time Inc., Arthur Hays Sulzberger of the New York Times, Barry Bingham Sr. of the Louisville Courier-Journal and James Copley of the Copley News Service. Other organizations which cooperated with the CIA include the American Broadcasting Company, the National Broadcasting Company, the Associated Press, United Press International, Reuters, Hearst Newspapers, Scripps-Howard, Newsweek magazine, the Mutual Broadcasting System, The Miami Herald, and the old Saturday Evening Post and New York Herald-Tribune. By far the most valuable of these associations, according to CIA officials, have been with The New York Times, CBS, and Time Inc.From the Agency’s perspective, there is nothing untoward in such relationships, and any ethical questions are a matter for the journalistic profession to resolve, not the intelligence community...Many journalists were used by the CIA to assist in this process and they had the reputation of being among the best in the business. The peculiar nature of the job of the foreign correspondent is ideal for such work; he is accorded unusual access, by his host country, permitted to travel in areas often off-limits to other Americans, spends much of his time cultivating sources in governments, academic institutions, the military establishment and the scientific communities. He has the opportunity to form long-term personal relationships with sources and -- perhaps more than any other category of American operative - is in a position to make correct judgments about the susceptibility and availability of foreign nationals for recruitment as spies.The Agency’s dealings with the press began during the earliest stages of the Cold War. Allen Dulles, who became director of the CIA in 1953, sought to establish a recruiting-and-cover capability within America’s most prestigious journalistic institutions. By operating under the guise of accredited news correspondents, Dulles believed, CIA operatives abroad would be accorded a degree of access and freedom of movement unobtainable under almost any other type of cover.American publishers, like so many other corporate and institutional leaders at the time, were willing us commit the resources of their companies to the struggle against “global Communism.” Accordingly, the traditional line separating the American press corps and government was often indistinguishable: rarely was a news agency used to provide cover for CIA operatives abroad without the knowledge and consent of either its principal owner; publisher or senior editor. Thus, contrary to the notion that the CIA era and news executives allowed themselves and their organizations to become handmaidens to the intelligence services. “Let’s not pick on some poor reporters, for God’s sake,” William Colby exclaimed at one point to the Church committee’s investigators. “Let’s go to the managements. They were witting” In all, about twenty-five news organizations (including those listed at the beginning of this article) provided cover for the Agency...Many journalists who covered World War II were close to people in the Office of Strategic Services, the wartime predecessor of the CIA; more important, they were all on the same side. When the war ended and many OSS officials went into the CIA, it was only natural that these relationships would continue.Meanwhile, the first postwar generation of journalists entered the profession; they shared the same political and professional values as their mentors. “You had a gang of people who worked together during World War II and never got over it,” said one Agency official. “They were genuinely motivated and highly susceptible to intrigue and being on the inside. Then in the Fifties and Sixties there was a national consensus about a national threat. The Vietnam War tore everything to pieces - shredded the consensus and threw it in the air.” Another Agency official observed: “Many journalists didn’t give a second thought to associating with the Agency. But there was a point when the ethical issues which most people had submerged finally surfaced. Today, a lot of these guys vehemently deny that they had any relationship with the Agency.”The CIA even ran a formal training program in the 1950s to teach its agents to be journalists. Intelligence officers were “taught to make noises like reporters,” explained a high CIA official, and were then placed in major news organizations with help from management. “These were the guys who went through the ranks and were told, “You’re going to be a journalist,” the CIA official said. Relatively few of the 400-some relationships described in Agency files followed that pattern, however; most involved persons who were already bona fide journalists when they began undertaking tasks for the Agency. The Agency’s relationships with journalists, as described in CIA files, include the following general categories:* Legitimate, accredited staff members of news organizations - usually reporters. Some were paid; some worked for the Agency on a purely voluntary basis.* Stringers and freelancers. Most were payrolled by the Agency under standard contractual terms.* Employees of so-called CIA “proprietaries.” During the past twenty-five years, the Agency has secretly bankrolled numerous foreign press services, periodicals and newspapers -- both English and foreign language -- which provided excellent cover for CIA operatives.* Columnists and commentators. There are perhaps a dozen well-known columnists and broadcast commentators whose relationships with the CIA go far beyond those normally maintained between reporters and their sources. They are referred to at the Agency as “known assets” and can be counted on to perform a variety of undercover tasks; they are considered receptive to the Agency’s point of view on various subjects.Murky details of CIA relationships with individuals and news organizations began trickling out in 1973 when it was first disclosed that the CIA had, on occasion, employed journalists. Those reports, combined with new information, serve as casebook studies of the Agency’s use of journalists for intelligence purposes.The New York Times - The Agency’s relationship with the Times was by far its most valuable among newspapers, according to CIA officials. [It was] general Times policy to provide assistance to the CIA whenever possible...CIA officials cite two reasons why the Agency’s working relationship with the Times was closer and more extensive than with any other paper: the fact that the Times maintained the largest foreign news operation in American daily journalism; and the close personal ties between the men who ran both institutions...The Columbia Broadcasting System -- CBS was unquestionably the CIA’s most valuable broadcasting asset. CBS president William Paley and Allen Dulles enjoyed an easy working and social relationship. Over the years, the network provided cover for CIA employees, including at least one well-known foreign correspondent and several stringers; it supplied outtakes of newsfilm to the CIA; established a formal channel of communication between the Washington bureau chief and the Agency; gave the Agency access to the CBS newsfilm library; and allowed reports by CBS correspondents to the Washington and New York newsrooms to be routinely monitored by the CIA. Once a year during the 1950s and early 1960s, CBS correspondents joined the CIA hierarchy for private dinners and briefings...At the headquarters of CBS News in New York, Paley’s cooperation with the CIA is taken for granted by many news executives and reporters, despite the denials. Paley, 76, was not interviewed by Salant’s investigators. “It wouldn’t do any good,” said one CBS executive. “It is the single subject about which his memory has failed.”Time and Newsweek magazines - According to CIA and Senate sources, Agency files contain written agreements with former foreign correspondents and stringers for both the weekly news magazines. The same sources refused to say whether the CIA has ended all its associations with individuals who work for the two publications. Allen Dulles often interceded with his good friend, the late Henry Luce, founder of Time and Life magazines, who readily allowed certain members of his staff to work for the Agency and agreed to provide jobs and credentials for other CIA operatives who lacked journalistic experience...At Newsweek, Agency sources reported, the CIA engaged the services of several foreign correspondents and stringers under arrangements approved by senior editors at the magazine...“To the best of my knowledge:’ said [Harry] Kern, [Newsweek’s foreign editor from 1945 to 1956] “nobody at Newsweek worked for the CIA.... The informal relationship was there. Why have anybody sign anything? What we knew we told them [the CIA] and the State Department.... When I went to Washington, I would talk to Foster or Allen Dulles about what was going on .... We thought it was admirable at the time. We were all on the same side.” CIA officials say that Kern's dealings with the Agency were extensive...When Newsweek was purchased by the Washington Post Company, publisher Philip L. Graham was informed by Agency officials that the CIA occasionally used the magazine for cover purposes, according to CIA sources. “It was widely known that Phil Graham was somebody you could get help from,” said a former deputy director of the Agency... But Graham, who committed suicide in 1963, apparently knew little of the specifics of any cover arrangements with Newsweek, CIA sources said...Information about Agency dealings with the Washington Post newspaper is extremely sketchy. According to CIA officials, some Post stringers have been CIA employees, but these officials say they do not know if anyone in the Post management was aware of the arrangements...Other major news organizations - According to Agency officials, CIA files document additional cover arrangements with the following news gathering organizations, among others: the New York Herald Tribune, Saturday Evening Post, Scripps-Howard Newspapers, Hearst Newspapers, Associated Press, United Press International, the Mutual Broadcasting System, Reuters and The Miami Herald...“And that's just a small part of the list,” in the words of one official who served in the CIA hierarchy. Like many sources, this official said that the only way to end the uncertainties about aid furnished the Agency by journalists is to disclose the contents of the CIA files - a course opposed by almost all of the thirty-five present and former CIA officials interviewed over the course of a year.The CIA’s use of journalists continued virtually unabated until 1973 when, in response to public disclosure that the Agency had secretly employed American reporters, William Colby began scaling down the program. In his public statements, Colby conveyed the impression that the use of journalists had been minimal and of limited importance to the Agency.He then initiated a series of moves intended to convince the press, Congress and the public that the CIA had gotten out of the news business. But according to Agency officials, Colby had in fact thrown a protective net around his most valuable intelligence assets in the journalistic community...At the headquarters of CBS News in New York, Paley’s cooperation with the CIA is taken for granted by many news executives and reporters, despite the denials. Paley, 76, was not interviewed by Salant’s investigators. “It wouldn’t do any good,” said one CBS executive. “It is the single subject about which his memory has failed.”After Colby left the Agency on January 28th, 1976, and was succeeded by George Bush, the CIA announced a new policy: “Effective immediately, the CIA will not enter into any paid or contract relationship with any full-time or part-time news correspondent accredited by any US news service, newspaper, periodical, radio or television network or station.” ... The text of the announcement noted that the CIA would continue to “welcome” the voluntary, unpaid cooperation of journalists. Thus, many relationships were permitted to remain intact.
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Wow. Thanks for that Bob. I can only imagine that political influence rules not just journalism, but most large corporations as well. The corporations serve government interests and the government serves corporate interests. The revolving door of corporate heads and heads of government agencis speaks to it. I just realized that is a working definition of fascism.
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How they tried to pick apart the James Files record, the gun had too much of a kick, etc.. I just don't understand how Files and Nicoletti's role as assassins jives with the other ones Chauncey Holt saw in Dealey, I mean Files doesn't mention seeing them, what were they there for if they didn't fire? How could all the assassins coordinate, especially if JFK had not had the groin brace on and hit the deck immediately.
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jk_7TCe_FkkThere were at least 8 shooters and I think moreThere were 12-14 bullets firedThey went with overkill to make sure JFK was dead if they failed bobby would of locked them all up and everyone would of been exposed. James FilesCharles NicollettiHarrelsonJim BradenJack LawrenceMalcolm Wallace Charles rogers Loy Factor Lucien Sarti disappeared a few years laterFrank sturgis Roscoe white who was killed the same time sarti dissapearedAnd there were 2 Cuban shooters from operation 40None of these shooters ever came into the limelight of the MSM thanks to operation mockingbird How else would you explain all the bulletholes Maybe some of them didn’t shoot but they were there.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operati ... ngbirdHere we have operation Mockingbird to lie to everyone and in the meantime the US is going around killing elected world leaders since the 1950 and continue to do so. When you watch the news it’s a script of fake news.
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Chauncey Holt said that he saw some well know assassins in his circle there, but he didn't mention that Harrelson was one of the assassins: http://spartacus-educational.com/JFKholt.htmHe mentioned a Cuban or two. So how did this "just to make sure" ambush work, if you had Files and Nicoletti as the main shooters?
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