Umbrella man

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Phil Dragoo
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Heckle and Jeckle

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TESTIMONY OF LOUIE STEVEN WITThttp://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/hsca/rep ... _Witt.pdfA total crock. His story is a piece of Swiss cheese. The dart gun concept is a red herring. The best part of the pdf is FBI Exhibit F-404 (Bothun) which shows James Files leaving his position headed for his car at the Dal-Tex Building to pick up Mssrs. Nicoletti and Rosselli.The best photos are at http://www.copweb.be/Orlando%20Bosch%20Avila.htmHit Control and click on the link to open it in a new window for widest access.Orlando Bosch Avila and Someone Most Assuredly NOT Steven Half-Witt.NicolaiSo many films and photos were either confiscated or damaged to conceal the presence of members of the conspiracy.The blowback from this suppression of evidence is a bellows keeping the embers of research glowing.
Bob
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Re: Heckle and Jeckle

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Phil Dragoo wrote:TESTIMONY OF LOUIE STEVEN WITThttp://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/hsca/rep ... _Witt.pdfA total crock. His story is a piece of Swiss cheese. The dart gun concept is a red herring. The best part of the pdf is FBI Exhibit F-404 (Bothun) which shows James Files leaving his position headed for his car at the Dal-Tex Building to pick up Mssrs. Nicoletti and Rosselli.The best photos are at http://www.copweb.be/Orlando%20Bosch%20Avila.htmHit Control and click on the link to open it in a new window for widest access.Orlando Bosch Avila and Someone Most Assuredly NOT Steven Half-Witt.NicolaiSo many films and photos were either confiscated or damaged to conceal the presence of members of the conspiracy.The blowback from this suppression of evidence is a bellows keeping the embers of research glowing.Agreed!!!
bob franklin
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Re: Umbrella man

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Is it possible that the umbrella was a signal not to the shooters, but from them (teams A, B, & C report ready - we're a go)? Perhaps a signal to somebody watching from a distant window. It was clearly a signal to someone. The most likely message would seem to be no fatal hit yet, team B you're up.
Davyjones
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Re: Umbrella man

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I am guns blazin....on UM.Who in their right mind would put a pratt like Witt, or a similar pratt, in a position of responsibility in this high profile murder?What if he had been picked up and spilled the beans?What was the point in having a signalman.....all the shooters could see if they had hit or not!UM does not exist as a part the story of the hit team...he is just another distraction sorry Bob
bob franklin
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Sorry, I just don't accept that. I don't buy that Witt is the umbrella man, either. His testimony seems stilted & phony. Seems this came up once before on the forum, & alternate ID's for this man were proposed. I can't remember who they were & can't find the thread any more. Probably lost in one of the hacks we suffered, or lost during an upgrade. Accidents will happen. You are of course entitled to your own opinion. Mine stands unaltered. Anyone else remember that thread?
bob franklin
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Re: Umbrella man

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Found this on a search. How very odd that there's such a non-wealth of information on this guy...http://www.jfk-assassination.de/articles/umbrella.phpI like the provided sources
kenmurray
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JFK Umbrella Man-More Doubts: By Russ Baker.http://whowhatwhy.com/2011/12/05/jfk-um ... re-doubts/
Dealey Joe
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no disrespect meant to Mr. Baker but he is out in left field here.also there were several people setting on the ground not being nonchalant is not an issue.
JDThomas
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Re: Umbrella man

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More burrowing in research archives:Interesting spot by Ron...Ron Ecker, on 11 Mar 2006: According to his testimony, Witt was working for the Rio Grande National Life Insurance Co. in 1963. It would be interesting to know who else worked there, how long Witt had been there, how long he had lived in Dallas, where did he come from, etc. I also wonder why he located the insurance company at two different addresses, 51 Northview Street at the corner of Beal, and the corner of Elm and Field Streets.Linda spotted that someone appears not to have done their homework very well...Linda Minor, 27 November 2011:Either the transcription of the HSCA testimony was wrong, or else the witness' memory was bad. The Rio Grande National Life Insurance Co. building was at the northwest corner of the intersection of Elm Street and N. Field, not Beal. The insurance company (Witt's employer in 1963) was owned and operated by the Baxter family, who moved to Dallas "in 1939, [when] the Rio Grande Building in Harlingen was traded for the old Linz Building on Main and Martin streets [1608 Main] in Dallas to become the company's new home office building." They built a new building in Dallas in about 1950 in the 1200 block of Elm; it was torn down for the Renaissance Tower. It would have been about half a mile from Dealey Plaza. Does David's research suprise anyone?David Williams, 08 January 2013The Rio Grande Building, in Dallas was also the home of 112th Military Intelligence unit in 1963.On this basis will anyone be willing to bid-up the value of Witt's testimony for anything more that the the cost of the paper it was written/transcribed onto?
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Re: Umbrella man

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It's clear from the pictures and film that umbrella man and walkie talkie man are both connected they stand there together they sit there together and they both walk in opposite directions together at the same time. Maybe the umbrella was a thumps up go ahead signal and Bosch was given everyone a signal to leave the scene. They both are in it together there is no doubt at all.
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