Israeli involvement in 9/11 and spying on the U.S.

[Davyjones]

Barney..I enjoy your posts,you say it as you find it,so do I. I hate the people who killed JFK and went on to many other terrible deeds,I love Americans. I hate the Natzis who started another terrible war on my shores and in Europe,I love all the guys in Europe including the Germans who have contibuted so much to culture and economic strength that I benifit from. I hate the bombers in Ireland who killed their own and my people for political gain,I love the Irish who are genetically so close to me a Celt by birth. I hate Jews who use finincial and political strength to enforce their views on me and care so little about the people like the Palastinians who also need a home,I love and admire Jews,a talented race,who want a home of there own and strive to negotiate a fair agreement with there neighbours. ITS ALL ABOUT INDIVIDUALS. Their are bad and good in every nation and I think we should concentrate on this forum in winkling them out rather than name calling folk just because of whatever rock they where born on.

[Dealey Joe]

Well said DavyI think most of us on here feal the same way.Some of these issues are difficult to talk about without sounding biased.

[Barney]

Davy Jones; I was paraphrasing a speech that a very young Hitler gave in one of his thousands of speechesduring the creation and rise of the National Democratic Socialist Party in Germany and Austria.I categorize people and nations of people by their deeds, integrity or lack thereof, courage in the face ofadversity, the usual human characteristics, for good or for ill.By the way, my people are Heintz 57 Variety, Irish, Scot, English, German, American Indian. Barney

[Davyjones]

Hi Barney I smoke a pipe and am jelous of your Red Indian blood Lets smoke a "peace pipe" together

[Bob]

Davyjones wrote:Barney..I enjoy your posts,you say it as you find it,so do I. I hate the people who killed JFK and went on to many other terrible deeds,I love Americans. I hate the Natzis who started another terrible war on my shores and in Europe,I love all the guys in Europe including the Germans who have contibuted so much to culture and economic strength that I benifit from. I hate the bombers in Ireland who killed their own and my people for political gain,I love the Irish who are genetically so close to me a Celt by birth. I hate Jews who use finincial and political strength to enforce their views on me and care so little about the people like the Palastinians who also need a home,I love and admire Jews,a talented race,who want a home of there own and strive to negotiate a fair agreement with there neighbours. ITS ALL ABOUT INDIVIDUALS. Their are bad and good in every nation and I think we should concentrate on this forum in winkling them out rather than name calling folk just because of whatever rock they where born on.As Joe said, excellent take on this subject matter Davy. It IS all about individuals. Sometimes those individuals run in packs though. That's where the world gets in trouble.

[Barney]

Davy Jones: at my age I want friends and lots of them. As the old saying goes. " better to be friends or buddies with 12, than to becarried by 6. Barney

[Bob]

Right wing fascism is alive and well in Israel...http://uruknet.com/?p=m71668&hd=&size=1&l=e

[Barney]

Davy Jones; since you mentioned my Amer. Indian ancestors, from Virginia, going all the way back to Pocahontas,via family marriages, we, our kind of people, learned all about the white man's love of mankind. After beingdiseased by, murdered by, raped by, and victims of wholesale theft of property and persons, we know all towell about the whitemans kind of love, justice, peace, conciliation. Thru all of that, the people still live, buton the whitemans reservations, prisons wideopen, but still prisons. Barney

[Dealey Joe]

Well Barney you need to come to Oklahoma!This is just one tribe http://www.choctawcasinos.com/Durant.aspxThe Creek up around Tulsa was some of the wealthiest people around.Owned the oil rites to the Oklahoma oil field$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$Most blew their money fast as they got it but a few didn't.

[Davyjones]

Barney, How ...Every mature nation has done terrible things to other people, even their own. I sometimes cringe when I read about my own nations past. I suppose thats why I dont go in for throwing mud at nation states but focus in on the people who are responsible for the terrible deeds done, under there own flag in many cases. You blame the whiteman with just cause. I blame the Romans who a little earlier chased my folk into the mountains of the North before the cold weather got to them and they buggered off.