Jimmy Files Shot To JFK'S Head Killed JFK Instantly:

JFK Assassination
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Bruce Patrick Brychek
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Jimmy Files Shot To JFK'S Head Killed JFK Instantly:

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Tuesday
02.09.2010
2:25 p.m.,
Chicago, Illinois time

Dear Mr. Michael Calder:

Michael - Thank You for your thoughts. Here's my counter-argument, as I thought about bone splinters before.

Wim Dankbaar has assembled excellent material about the need for JFK's face to be filled w/ Mortician's Wax and Clay, indicating multiple exit paths through JFK's face and his neck.

Jimmy Sutton/Files had extensive experience with mercury filled hollow points, and head shots. Of course I tended to believe his experience, and trust his knowledge, but Wim's information sealed my belief.

Going further, what shot to JFK could have caused bone splinters ?

Yes, JFK was probably hit in the back before he emerged from the sign.

However, JFK was wearing two (2) back braces. Few have ever raised these points before anywhere - I reviewed other medical records and reports. Seymour Hersh has done excellent work on this exact subject matter.

One (1) due to his ongoing problems, and the second (2) from an injury caused by recent sexual escapades. Both back braces are in the National Archives, but both are not listed in The Warren Commission Report.

Additionally, one (1) report indicated that a finger probing JFK'S back felt the bullet, with little penetration.

My previous argument was that the two (2) back braces, one which was extremely heavy duty w/ metal back supports, would have severely slowed the speed, and the ultimate penetration into JFK's back.

Both back braces were extremely resilient, stretched fabric with nylon and rubber.

Michael - still you raise a good point. The foregoing are my argumentative points against it.

Michael - you and I agree about 90%+ of the time - but here I depart - retaining of course the greatest respect for you and all of your interviews, research, studies, and writing.

Comments ?

Respectfully,
BB.
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Jimmy Files Shot To JFK'S Head Killed JFK Instantly:

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Bruce Patrick Brycheck, I hate arguing with genius. Do you ever let your poor girlfriend win an argument just because?Now at least I understand why the back shot failed to penetrate very far. I wasn't aware of the braces. I don't think there is much doubt that a shot did hit him in the back, though:"At the moment I looked at the back of the president, I heard another firecracker noise and saw the shot hit the president about 4 inches down from his right shoulder." ( Secret Service Agent Glen Bennett) www.jfkcia.com
Dealey Joe
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What bothers me is that the back wound was very shallow and done no apparent damage? how did this happen? if this was a legitimate shot where is the damage?

The neck wound because of no apparent neck damage I feel must be a shrapnel wound?

I can buy the possibility that the back brace might have held JFK in an upright position with a broken back. but a shot in the nech from the front wo8ild have the effect of taking off his head.

Connelly seemed to have the only seriouse body wounds. Maybe we just don't have the truth about it.

Now no one believes the Zapruder film. I think I am leaning toward the magic bullet theory... .222 from the picket fence.
Phil Dragoo
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Ersatz wounds, sabot rounds, suppressed sounds

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Thom, you cite Lifton circa 365-6 wherein he deplores the overlarge clothing ellipses, and 367 where he cites Willis 5 showing Glenn Bennett seeing the back wound from fifty feet looking in another direction. JD, you reference Chauncey Holt's mention of making sabots which wound up in Dallas. Marrs writes on 317:Dean Morgan of Lewisville (a suburb of Dallas) was told Texas researchersthat in 1975 his father was working on air-conditioning equipment on theroof of the Dallas County Records Building located just catercorner fromthe Texas School Book Depository. The Records Building's west side facesonto Dealey Plaza and there is a waist-high parapet along the edge of itsroof.According to Morgan, his father discovered a 30.06-caliber shell casing lyingunder a lip of roofing tar at the base of the roof's parapet on the side facingDealey Plaza while searching for water leaks.The shell casing is dated 1953 and marks indicate it was manufactured atthe Twin Cities Arsenal. One side has been pitted by exposure to theweather, indicating it lay on the roof for a long time. The casing, which remainsin Morgan's possession, has an odd crimp around its neck.Rifle experts have explained to Morgan that this is evidence that a sabotmay have been used to fire ammunition from a 30.06 rifle. A sabot is a plasticsleeve that allows a larger-caliber weapon to fire a smaller-caliber slug.The results of using a lighter-weight slug include increased velocity producingmore accuracy and greater striking power. And the smaller slug exhibitsthe ballistics of the weapon it was originally fired from, rather than, in thiscase, the 30.06, as the sabot engages the 30.06's rifling.98Thom, you see the Secret Service as Bob the Builder using a No. 3 Phillips to make the back wound, and a 22-ounce framing hammer to enlarge the Parkland occipital into the Bethesda C-54 hangar door.JD, I believe you and Holt raise the very likely possibility that technical developments both of Holt's sabot and Mitch WerBell's suppressed weapons would have played.Joe, you suggest a dud for the shallowness of the back wound. Absolutely has to be considered; as do the two braces--and of course these are in the National Archives, cracked Tom wisely.Somehow Connally was shot in the back. I don't see any evidence which excludes Jimmy Files; just find a sense he may be covering for person or persons unknown.For the reason that there were more missiles in heaven and earth than have been dreamt in any philosophy by any bard to date. Hence Bob and Bruce have called together this meeting of Baker Street Irregulars.Whoever bought the contract, Jimmy put the final ink to it; all subsequent being revision.
Dealey Joe
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Thom I hear what you are saying but i can see no where that a shot could have been fired from the front that would beof sufficient height to enter the neck at an angle to go downward into the chest lung area.I have never shot a person but I have in my days been quite the varmint hunter.I have never fired a shot into anything that would be comparable to the neck that did that kind of minimal damage.A small high velosity bullet would do very visable damage. a large bullet would pass completely through the neck andthe path of that bullet would have distroyed the back bone. large or small would have tthe effect of taking his head off.i think it looked like an entrane wound and the doctors had no reason to suspect otherwise.putting the trach in was just an effort in futility. they already knew there was nothing they could do.but did not want to be accused of not trying.As cool as doctors are I would imagine that beeing in that situation was very disturbing to them.They are human and are subject to reaction.
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Bruce, you have created an image combining Ayn Rand's Atlas Shrugged, and Albert Camus' Myth of Sisyphus.Water created the Grand Canyon without uttering a word.Bob, Abraham Bolden made it clear the Secret Service bragged it would step aside for any bullet aimed at Kennedy. And, yes, the two asshats in the front seat stopped and turned to wait for the head shot. Well, duh. They richly deserve the Full Saigon Police Chief de Gras.Jim DiEugenio's Parts Eight and Nine run to the big picture rather than the microanalysis--and couple those portraits with James Douglass in JFK and the Unspeakable wherein he has Allen Dulles roaring at David Lifton: "You have NOTHING!"These jackasses slew the president who wouldn't execute their policy; and they wrapped the deed in an enigma in a riddle in a paradox--then sent in an ambulance for a "seizure" and badgered Perry and put Yates through eleven years of thorazine and electroshock for giving the hitchhiking Oswald double a ride--with his "curtain rods".The ghost of the execrable Helms laughs at our squabbles over what in the end are details independent of the whole: that rather than openly confront, they took to the shadows to ambush.What was supposed to happen in Vietnam? Brown & Root's Big Payday? The Mob never got its casinos and heroin back in Cuba. Johnson, Hoover, Nixon, Ford all shuffled off the stage in disgrace and defeat. Only the CIA survived.Leon Panetta--who pushed the sale of Long Beach to COSCO and the PLAN--presides. DCI-emeritus Gates cowrote the CFR paper in 2004 Iran: Time for a New Approach calling for negotiations with the Islamic Republic--is Prince al-Taleel getting his money's worth for Obama's Harvard education?And what of Hillary? Her husband flacked for Dubai and she recently boohooed that Vietnam reneged on the deal they made with her SecStateness to allow the democracy advocates free speech.The only men of integrity seem to be revolving around a man in a cell in the Land of Lincoln.Let us not to the marriage of true minds admit impediment.Let us not talk falsely now; the hour is getting late.
Dealey Joe
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Sometimes I don't understand a word you all say At times I have to step back and take a different direction and generally end up going around the world.As for me I have to get a feeling for something as to the ways it may have happened and what is logicaland what is probable.I have stood in Dallas at Dealey Plaza and felt a peace in the air knowing we have solved the affair that happened there in '63.I have stood in Waco and a feeling of dispair with no peace.Oklahoma City at the Murrah building I cannot get near because of the intense pressure. At Dealey there is no possiblty of a shot from the south.The throat wound is hard to understand because it looks like an entrance wound in the pictures we have been shown.because it probabbly was an entrance wound having been made by shrapnel.All that being said I want to offer, once again, to pick anyone up at the DFW airport for a visit.I even have a couple spare private rooms upstairs if you want to stay awhile.Martha and I might even feed you and furnish the beer unless of course you are FROM MILWAUKEE If you have never been to Dealey you owe it to yourself to do so, and to see Oak Cliff as well.
Dealey Joe
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The cover-up started when they was telling us the a man with no brain was still alive?
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Jimmy Files Shot To JFK'S Head Killed JFK Instantly:

Post by Bob »

Bruce, as I said in my first post on this thread, JFK was as dead as a doornail the second he was hit by the simultaneous shots from Chuck Nicoletti and Jimmy Files.

My opinion hasn't changed.

At least JFK didn't have to linger like RFK, who hung on for over 24 hours after his head wound in his assassination.
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