Diem Coup

[john boland]

From my reading, President Kennedy sactioned the overthrow of the Diem Resime in South Vietnam. He never gave a direct order for assassination. Henry Cabot Lodge the Ambassador to South Vietnam at that time assured the ARVN Generals that the United States would not interfer in the Coup d'ete. After the assassination of Diem, evidently by the South Vietamesse Generals, would not Kennedy, who never authorized such a tactic not want to distance himself away from the dignataries who supported such a measure? After the assassination, complete chaos errupted in South Vietnam. To me, this might have been the worst time to be an American solider in country during this time. If President Kennedy could have cut ties with some of these high level people at that time, could he have escaped his destiny by removing these people all together from his immediate group of advisors? The more they hung around him, the more time they had to "conspire." Just a thought.

[Bob]

This will hopefully clarify what JFK was up against in that period of time...When John F. Kennedy inherited the responsibility of the presidency he also inherited the wars that banking and the military industrial complex were heavily invested in promoting and profiting from. Presidents Truman and Eisenhower had subsidized the French war against Vietnam under the auspices of the Marshall Plan from 1948 to 1952, giving France five billion two hundred million dollars in military aid. By 1954, the U.S. was paying approximately 80% of all French war costs. In 1951 the Rockefeller Foundation had created a study group comprised of members from the Council on Foreign Relations and England's Royal Institute on International Affairs. The panel concluded that there should be a British-American takeover of Vietnam as soon as possible. Secretary of State John Foster Dulles one of the CFR founders and his brother, CIA Director Allen Dulles and many others immediately championed the council's goals.Vietnam had fought against the French occupation since 1884. By 1947 Vietnam was considered a valuable colony to be exploited by both French and American interests. In the countryside, peasants struggled under heavy taxes and high rents. In corporate factories, coalmines, and rubber plantations the people labored under abysmal conditions barely able to survive. The Vietnamese people rose up against the poverty and enslavement imposed upon them and fought the powerful French Foreign Legion, which was funded by America, and in 1954 the Vietnamese people took back their country. With the ejection of the French, the Geneva Agreements were signed on July 21,1954, officially ending the hostilities in Indochina. The agreement prohibited foreign troops and arms from entering Vietnam, and stipulated that free Democratic elections were to be held in 1956, allowing the people of Vietnam to determine their country's future. South Vietnam's corrupt Prime Minister Diem was completely opposed to the Geneva Agreements, and the elections. CIA research had proven that if free democratic elections were held, Diem would lose and Vietnam would become a unified country. France and America would loose their slave colony and the profitable Vietnam War venture would end. The Dulles brothers urged Eisenhower to intervene militarily, and invade Vietnam, but Eisenhower refused. The potential for arms production profits from an Asian country divided by civil war were staggering, particularly if the war could be made to last twenty years or more. Allen Dulles acting independently from President Eisenhower, with the support of Clarence Dillon's son Douglas, Averell Harriman, Prescott Bush and many others sent 675 covert military operatives into Vietnam headed by Air Force officer Edward Lansdale. Their mission was to help Diem stop fair and democratic elections and to prevent the establishment of a united Vietnam. The National Security Council's planning board assured Diem that if hostilities resulted, United States' armed forces would help him oppose the North Vietnamese. With the backing of America, the dictatorial Diem claimed that his government had never signed the Geneva Agreements and was not bound by them, and he promptly cancelled the elections. In 1958 Civil War started, and within two years guerrilla war erupted throughout Southern Vietnam. Diem asked Washington for assistance which resulted in yet another profitable war for America's military industrialists. Dean Rusk (Secretary of State) and Robert McNamara (Secretary of Defense) hounded Kennedy into sending 10,000 Special Forces troops to Vietnam between 1961 and 1962. Kennedy was privately and publicly against the Vietnam War created by the military industrial complex. He didn't buy into their manufactured propaganda about the worldwide communist menace. Kennedy said, "I can not justify sending American boys half-way around the world to fight communism when it exists just south of Florida in Cuba." Kennedy stressed that Diem needed to win the hearts and minds of his people in the struggle against communism. Kennedy said, "I don't think that unless a greater effort is made by the Government to win the popular support that the war can be won out there. In the final analysis, it is their war. They are the ones who have to win it or lose it". Kennedy knew that only with all of the South Vietnamese people fully behind him could Diem hope to defeat the North. Diem ignored Kennedy's advice and behaved like a dictator and his heavy-handed tactics continuously eroded the support of his people. America's ten thousand soldiers and a constant rain of bombs proved to be inconsequential in the effort to suppress the Vietnamese population. Allen Dulles, Dean Rusk, and Robert McNamara kept the truth about the deteriorating Vietnam situation hidden from Kennedy. The military industrial power structure surrounding Kennedy would only say that the war was going exactly as planned, that the Vietnamese people were being liberated, and that they liked Prime Minister Diem. Kennedy had reasons to doubt their word, as he had caught Allen Dulles covertly attempting to train a second group of Cuban exiles for another Cuban invasion. Kennedy had sent FBI agents in to destroy Dulles's training camps and confiscate the weapons, letting the matter end there. Kennedy no longer trusted the Dulles brothers, Rusk, McNamara or Dean Acheson, his so-called Democratic foreign policy advisor, or for that matter, most of the people in the corrupt government he had inherited. Kennedy decided that he needed to monitor the Vietnam War and the men conducting it more closely. He formed a panel, appointing Allen Dulles and others to keep him apprised on a constant basis as to the status of the war.On March 13, 1962, the Northwoods document was brought to Kennedy's attention. The Joint Chiefs of Staff and Allen Dulles had drawn up a plan to launch a series of terrorist attacks within the United States, combined with a media blitz blaming Cuba for the attacks. They believed this would frighten the American public into overwhelmingly supporting a second invasion of Cuba. The Northwoods plan called for Pentagon and CIA paramilitary forces to sink ships, hijack airliners and bomb buildings. When Kennedy heard of their plan, he was furious. The corrupt military industrial power structure within the American government knew no bounds, not even the lives of their own countrymen mattered in their quest for power and profit. Kennedy removed CIA director Allen Dulles, deputy director Richard Bissell and General Lyman Lemnitzer, head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, for their parts in the plan. Within weeks Prescott Bush who had close dealings with these individuals, chose to retire prematurely from politics for supposed health reasons.Kennedy realized that the CIA was a focal point of corporate war planning, from which emanated a secret agenda that threatened the security and freedom of the American people. He said, "I will shatter the CIA into a thousand pieces and scatter them to the winds". Kennedy intended to do battle with a terrible evil and take America back from the military industrial complex and those who financed it. He began by founding a panel that would investigate the CIA's numerous crimes. He put a damper on the breadth and scope of the CIA, limiting their ability to act under National Security Memorandum 55. With the CIA temporarily under control he turned his attention to the task of gathering real information on the war by sending McNamara and Taylor- an aide he trusted, to Vietnam. Based on their memo entitled, Report of McNamara-Taylor Mission to South Vietnam, Kennedy decided that America needed to withdraw immediately from the unwinnable and immoral Vietnam War. Kennedy personally helped draft the final version of a report wherein it stated; "The Defense Department should announce in the very near future presently prepared plans to withdraw 1000 U.S. military personnel by the end of 1963." Kennedy soon issued National Security Action Memorandum 263, and forty pages in the Gravel Pentagon Papers that were devoted to the withdrawal plan. With this new Memorandum Kennedy began to implement the removal of U.S. forces from Vietnam.Many individuals in the U.S. government were CFR members, an organization that was openly pushing the Vietnam War, and these same people had close ties to the privately owned Federal Reserve banking system, a chief financial promoter and profiteer of war. Kennedy intended to stop the Vietnam War and all future wars waged for profit by America. He intended to regain control of the American people's government and their country by cutting off the military industrial complex and Federal Reserve banking system's money supply. Kennedy launched his brilliant attack using the Constitution, which states "Congress shall have the Power to Coin Money and Regulate the Value." Kennedy stopped the Federal Reserve banking system from printing money and lending it to the government at interest by signing Executive Order 11,110 on June 4, 1963. The order called for the issuance of $4,292,893,815 (4.3 trillion) in United States Notes through the U.S. treasury rather than the Federal Reserve banking system. He also signed a bill backing the one and two-dollar bills with gold which added strength to the new government issued currency. Kennedy's comptroller James J. Saxon, encouraged broader investment and lending powers for banks that were not part of the Federal Reserve system. He also encouraged these non-Fed banks to deal directly with and underwrite state and local financial institutions. By taking the capital investments away from the Federal Reserve banks, Kennedy would break them up and destroy them. It was at this time that the corrupt politicos and CFR members, representatives of organizations who stood to profit most from the Vietnam War and loose the most from the Federal Reserve deconstruction, revealed themselves publicly as a group against President Kennedy. They were all considered the pillars of right wing American establishment and their protests and accusations became more bellicose after initial troop withdrawal plans were announced on November 16, 1963. The Council on Foreign Relations, the Morgan and Rockefeller interests and the CIA had been extensively intertwined for years in promoting the Vietnam War and other wars, and their motives were the same. Kennedy was facing the fight of his young life against a group of wealthy powerful bankers and industrialists who had their representatives deeply implanted within American Government and business. The names of some of these people and the organizations they represented were:• Nelson Rockefeller - New York Governor• David Rockefeller - Chase Manhattan Bank president, co-founder of the Trilateral Commission• Douglas Dillon - Kennedy's Treasury Secretary and CFR member• The Wall Street Journal• Fortune Magazine editor Charles J. V. Murphy• Dean Rusk - Secretary of State and Iron Mountain panel member• Robert McNamara - Secretary of Defense until 1968, and later President of the World Bank (an adjunct of the United Nations and CFR)• McGeorge Bundy - National Security Advisor and Iron Mountain panel member• William Bundy - editor of the CFR's Foreign Affairs• Averill Harriman - director of the Mutual Security Agency, and chief of the Anglo-American military alliance.• Henry Cabot Lodge - U.S. Ambassador to Saigon• The Joint Chiefs of Staff• John J. McCloy - Assistant Secretary of War (WWII) and Kennedy advisor• Cyrus Vance - Secretary of the Army• Walt Rostow - State Department's Policy Planning Council and LBJ's National Security Advisor• Dean Acheson - Truman Secretary of State and Democratic foreign policy advisorPrime Minister Diem was loosing control of South Vietnam and growing impatient with the American war. He had begun negotiations with Ho Chi Minh, leader of the North, which unlike the Vietnamese election could not be prevented or rigged. A potential unification might occur quickly. The Vietnam War moneymaking engine was in grave danger from both the actions of Diem and Kennedy. The military industrial complex had their cadre Henry Cabot Lodge conveniently positioned within the US State Department and the Kennedy administration as a Vietnam War advisor and U.S. Ambassador to Saigon. Lodge made secret arrangements with CIA operatives in Vietnam to have Diem assassinated on November 2, 1963. Kennedy had not authorized such an order and after Diem's assassination he immediately instituted an investigation to find out who was responsible. Later on November 20, 1963 Vietnam War advisor Walt Whitman Rostow was somehow granted a personal meeting with Kennedy to attempt to sell him on the Vietnam War with a plan he called "a well-reasoned case for a gradual escalation". Kennedy had already rejected a similar plan to escalate the war in 1961, he had publicly announced his own plan of withdrawal from the war, but the corrupt power structure wouldn't accept it. The meeting was Kennedy's last chance. Two days after rejecting Rostow's transparent plan for war, John Fitzgerald Kennedy, who alone had dared to stand against the military industrial complex and the Federal Reserve banking system, was murdered in Dallas, Texas at 12:30 p.m. CST on November 22, 1963, in a bloody "coup d'état".

[john boland]

Wow. What a stacked deck to have to play against. Such an important and critical time (JFK and Vietnam Era) in our countries history. It is therefore not suprising that the attitudes, sterotypes, and influences of the peolple (good guys as well as bad guys) who lived through that turbulent time have come to shape and mold our peception of it.

[Bruce Patrick Brychek]

11.17.2012Dear JFK Murder Solved Forum Members and Readers:07.01.2008 - Mr. John Boland Posted this Precise, and More Deeply Analytical, Probative Headline than many realized then, or now.07.02.2008 - Mr. Bob Fox Posted this Sequential Time Line Analysis of a portion of the "The CIA Era leading up to The JFK Removal of 11.22.1963."No analysis of The JFK Removal can be analytically precise without a firm grasp of "the developmental history of the Military Industrial Complex and the War Profiteers" who were functioning at a Global Level beyond the comprehension of most back then, and perhaps even more so today.The Serious JFK and Realted Subject Matters Researchers and Students would be extremely well served byreading, researching, and studying The interconnectedness of this Subject Matter and The Far ReachingTentacles of The Octopus of The High Cabal. My Opinion.As always, I strongly recommend that you first read, research, and study material completely yourself abouta Subject Matter, and then formulate your own Opinions and Theories.Any additional analyses, interviews, investigations, readings, research, studies, thoughts, or writings on any aspect of this Subject Matter ?Bear in mind that we are trying to attract and educate a Whole New Generation of JFK Researchers who maynot be as well versed as you.Comments ?Respectfully,BB.

[kenmurray]

The South Vietnamese Coup Against Diem:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZf_rCma6jw

[Bruce Patrick Brychek]

01.30.2016Dear JFK Murder Solved Forum Members and Readers:07.01.2008 - John Boland Posted this Headline that was then, and is today even more powerfully importantabout The Powerful Machinations developing and evolving before, during, and after The Removal of JFK on11.22.1963.07.02.2008 - Bob Fox POSTED A TREMENDOUSLY POWERFUL SEQUENTIAL TIME LINE ANALYSIS OF A PORTIONOF THE CIA ERA LEADING UP TO THE JFK REMOVAL OF 11.22.1963. This needs to be analyzed and studied very intricately focused on what Bob presents, and beyond through today. My Opinion.The Serious JFK Researcher must fully grasp the Historical Context of The JFK Removal if you ever hope to make "any sense" out of the Who, What, When, Where, Why, and How, or you will keep chasing the voluminoustails and tales of The JFK Removal. My Opinion.Richard Milhous Nixon was The Designated Successor of President Dwight David Eisenhower. The High Cabal and the Interconnectedness of the Tentacles of The Octopus dealing with all involved agenciesand agents went on Alert and Standby immediately after JFK "Won" The 1960 Presidential Election. Tothink anything less is simplistic.Although all/most American Politics is most likely totally corrupt, Joe Kennedy, Sr., Bought-Stole The1960 Presidential Election for JFK. Joe's actions ultimately led to the removals of JFK and RFK.JFK, though brilliant, was naive. JFK's Inaugural Speech of 01.20.1961 was most likely the Take Off forConversations and Discussions about what to do with JFK. Operation Northwoods, and The Bay of Pigsconfirmed all suspicions, and provided additional "credibility" for The Mandatory Wet Removal of JFK.Preconceived notions about JFK and RFK existed. JFK and RFK were given enough rope to hang themselves.Many in The High Cabal certainly said "See, we told you."The Diem Coup and The Complete Historical Context of Viet Nam, The Military Industrial Complex, andThe CIA are mired in The Invisibility of The Majestic Twelve.As always, I strongly recommend that you first read, research, and study material completely yourself abouta Subject Matter, and then formulate your own Opinions and Theories.Any additional analyses, interviews, investigations, readings, research, studies, thoughts, or writing on any aspect of this Subject Matter ?Bear in mind that we are trying to attract and educate a Whole New Generation of JFK Researchers who maynot be as well versed as you.Comments ?Respectfully,BB.

[kenmurray]

Death Of A Regime:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OewhlYeU2fo