Shots from the front don't make sense
Shots from the front don't make sense
I've seen and read a lot of discussion on possible shots from the front of JFK. However, I'm having a difficult time buying into any of it. The success of the conspiracy hinged on putting the shots BEHIND the President unless absolutely necessary.Why then would the first shot come from the front and hit JFK in the neck? You kill the whole plan of setting up the patsy from behind. I don't believe JFK was hit in the throat or else he would have grabbed it. Instead, his arms come up in reaction to being hit in the back. Plus, there was no blood showing in his neck area. And why on earth would a sniper trying to hit Kennedy from the front shoot THROUGH the limo windshield? Everyone in the limo would testify about a shot coming through the glass. I say nonsense. I believe the damage to the windshield was caused by shrapnel from inside the limo. No through-and-through shot.I feel that the small neck wound and other face punctures reportrd at the autopsy were caused by the exploding mercury round and/or shrapnel from Nicoletti's shot. James Files took his shot from the front right when he thought his last chance had arrived and he caught flack from Nicoletti. Imagine the reaction if bullets were hitting JFK early on in the neck and through the windshield. To quote Files, "that's a lot of fantasy."
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I'm not sure about a front shot but somehow I think there was one, who was the guy seen walking with a rifle after the Assasination on the other side of the triple overpass. What was he doing over there with a rifle?
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Jim Garrison Dealey Plaza Shooting ScenarioExcerpt from Interview with Jim GarrisonPlayboy. October, 1967Playboy: If Oswald didn't shoot President Kennedy from the sixth-floor window of the Book Depository, who did?Garrison: Our office has developed evidence that the President was assassinated by a precision guerilla team of at least seven men, including anti-Castro adventurers and members of the paramilitary right.[...]In the course of our investigation, we've encountered additional evidence establishing absolutely that there were at least four men on the grassy knoll, at least two behind the picket fence and two or more behind a small stone wall to the right of the fence. As I reconstruct it from the still-incomplete evidence in our possession, one man fired at the President from each location while the role of his companion was to snatch up the cartridges as they were ejected.[...]. . . it seems virtually certain that the cartridges, along with the rifles, were then thrown into the trunk of a car--parked directly behind the picket fence--which was driven from the scene some hours after the assassination.[...]In addition to the assassins on the grassy knoll, at least two other men fired from behind the President, one from the Book Depository Building -- not Oswald -- and one, in all probability, from the Dal-Tex Building. As it happens, a man was arrested right after the assassination as he left the Dal-Tex Building and was taken away in a patrol car, but like the three other men detained after the assassination -- one in the railroad yard behind the grassy knoll, one on the railroad overpass farther down the parade route, and one in front of the Book Depository Building--he then dropped out of sight completely. All of these suspects taken into custody after the assassination remain as anonymous as if they'd been detained for throwing a candy wrapper on the sidewall. We have also located another man -- in green combat fatigues -- who was not involved in the shooting but created a diversionary action in order to distract people's attention away from the snipers. This individual screamed, fell to the ground and simulated an epileptic fit, drawing people away from the vicinity of the knoll just before the President's motorcade reached the ambush point. So you have at least seven people involved, with four firing at the President and catching him in a crossfire -- just as the assassins had planned at the meeting in David Ferrie's apartment in September. It was a precision operation and was carried out coolly and with excellent coordination: the assassins even kept in contact by radio. The president, of course, had no chance. It was an overkill operation.[...]Playboy: If the first bullet was fired from the front, why wasn't it found in the President's body or somewhere in the Presidential limousine?Garrison: The exact nature of the President's wounds, as well as the disposition of the bullets or bullet fragments, are among the many concealed items in this case. I told you earlier about the men on the grassy knoll whose sole function we believe was to catch the cartridges as they were ejected from the assassins' rifles. We also have reason to suspect that other members of the conspiracy may have been assigned the job of removing other evidence -- such as traceable bullet fragments -- that might betray the assassin.[...]In summation, there were at least five or six shots fired at the President from front and rear by at least four gunmen, assisted by several accomplices, who of whom probably picked up the cartridges and one of who created a diversion to draw people's attention away from the grassy knoll. At this stage of events, Lee Harvey Oswald was no more than a spectator to the assassination -- perhaps in a very literal sense. As the first shot rang out, Associated Press photographer James Altgens snapped a picture of the motorcade that shows a man with a remarkable resemblance to Lee Harvey Oswald--same hairline, same face shape -- standing in the doorway of the Book Depository Building. Somehow or other, the Warren Commission concluded that this man was actually Billy Nolan Lovelady, an employee of the Depository, who looked very little like Oswald. Furthermore, on the day of the assassination, Oswald was wearing a white T-shirt under a long-sleeved dark shirt opened halfway to his waist -- the same outfit worn by the main in the doorway -- but Lovelady said that on November 22nd he was wearing a short-sleeved, red-and-white striped sport shirt buttoned near the neck. The Altgens photograph indicates the very real possibility that at the moment Oswald was supposed to have been crouching in the sixth-floor window of the Depository shooting Kennedy, he may actually have been standing outside the front door watching the Presidential motorcade.But Wait. It Gets Better.The following is from Edward J. Epstein, The Assassination Chronicles:Thomas Bethell, who worked on the investigation as a member of Garrison's staff since its inception, descibed the contribution of the amateurs this way: "The trouble with these third-rate students is that the only way they can make a strong impression on Garrison is by coming up with flamboyant nonsense, thus hoping to be hired as someone with original ideas" . . . . When Allan Chapman, the Illuminati specialist, lent his support to the theory that a shot had been fired from a storm drain in Dealey Plaza that day in Dallas, Garrison stated on television that the bullet that killed Kennedy was "fired by a man standing in a sewer manhole." Thus, Garrison added a sixteenth man to the team that he claims carried out the assassination and a fifth spot from which he has said the shots were fired. (p. 215-216).In fact, on December 18, 1967, Garrison released three photos to the press to support his "sewer theory:"The first showed an entrance to a storm sewer at the point where the Stockade Fence meets the Triple Underpass.The second and third showed the storm sewer in front of the Grassy Knoll on Elm Street, and the view that a shooter would have had of the limo from that sewer.Read Entire InterviewBack to Garrison/New Orleans Page
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Good place on grassy knoll
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I just seen this pic, I believe there was more than files on the knoll
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Those are all quite interesting posts Slav, but they still don't address the whole idea of putting obvious shots from the front early in the assassination if the intent the whole time was to frame Oswald as the sole shooter from behind. There was a concerted effort beginning in May '63 to create the perfect patsy. By setting up shooters from in front to begin the assault, you are essentially throwing out the whole idea of having a patsy. Files was only to shoot as a last resort if Nicoletti couldn't get a head shot. That makes sense. Shooting through limo windshields from the front does not. I have always believed that shooters were there in front but after careful examination of the situation from a logic standpoint, I have real problems believing any shots came from in front. Just my Bobservation...
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Bob just because shots from the front don't make sense doesn't mean it didn't happen! There are a lot of things in this case that doesn't make sense. for instances: Why kill a person in broad daylight in front of hundreds of witnesses? Against all mafia rules of engagement, especially a political figure. They had to know if they shot JFK where they did he be rushed to the hospital, and obviously they didn't have Parkland under control like they thought! I'm sure the shooters were nervous and some shot to early. That type of assassination wouldn't work today because to many camera phones and to many networks. The biggest thing I can't understand as I play that day out in my mind was, I could all those reporters be at Parkland Hospital at 2;30 in the afternoon, and listen to the doctors talked about the wounds in Kennedy and Connelly, and than go to the midnight press conference, and not put two and two together and ask how could Oswald have shot that many times, and how could he have shot JFK in the throat and right temple. "IT'S MIND BOGGLING"
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Could be, but a good hitman won't go to fire early...nor would he shoot through a windshield or a highway sign as we've seen theories of. Also, a hit in daytime would not have shooters all over the place. I'm afraid too many people are making it a bigger operation than it was.
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The top priority of the day was to shoot JFK it doesn't matter where the shot came from, they had so many teams it didn't matter , the Nickoletti team was told a rear shot, yet they put files on the grassy knoll and Gen Lansdale approved his location moments before the shooting by visiting the very spot Files shot from not asking him to move. All other shooters shot from there location without fear because Hoover had everything under control along with the cia to put the cover up in place , that is why they controlled the body at the hospital and afterwards. The shooters had nothing to fear the Government and Hoover were in charge, they didn't care where they shot from as long he was dead. They had to work harder to cover up all the other shots by controlling the body and limo. Why were all the other shooters in dealy plaza, I have to believe Garrison and others saying there was many shooters. I still wonder today why they had so many shooters in dealy plaza, the only thing I could come up with is that LBJ and Hoover were so scared they wanted to make sure that nobody missed. How can you miss with 8 shooters in dealy plaza. The cover up began right away minutes after the shots everyone had there orders it was a drill where everyone had there part in the cover up. With so many bullet holes in the limo and missed shots 8-10 bullets that is my only conclusion when they said a flurry of shots came into the limo, a flurry is not 3 shots.