JFK RFK MLK Assassination Forum

Assume we set up a database, and through some modern equivalent of PROLOG, make it an artificially intelligent database.Assume we throw into this database under the "Events" relation the event of a butterfly flapping its wings in Borneo. For overcollecting facts of any kind and incorporating them into the database, it will have no effect. The search and logic engine will find no inferential link between the butterfly and the President's head coming apart. Nor would it find any inferential link between the butterfly and the other confirmed inferential links, events, people, people-of-interest, testimonies, affidavits, stories, and even folklore.So expanding the field of evidence is good; if it expands in such a way that it alters your hypotheses initially and subsequently, those hypotheses must also be consistent with all the other facts in the database. Cherry-picking whatever one wants to substantiate any theory or theory-objective would not be done by the AI search engine. Bill O'Reilly, Vincent Bugliosi, Gerald Posner, Waldron -- none of these people have the inferential integrity of either a chess-playing AI program or an AI database and inference engine.So what do you think I'm going to say about this, since you brought up Cord Meyer? The Mary Meyer story -- iconized with a Jefferson Airplane rock opera -- is a story with many facts but it is also folklore, if we assume all the speculations about it and its popularization with the '60s rock-group. Gracie Slick and her friends simply add some indication to me that Boomers in the '60s all had a sense of the old Bob Dylan song: "You know somethin's happenin' but you don't know what it is . . . . do you . . . . Mr. Jones." And here, we're making guesses about mass-psychology.I would even wager you could throw input to the database with inferences and logic in the study of mass-psychology. It would only help.Consider the "insider" CIA scenario of the early '60s. If Kennedy was playing with Mary, it would have provided fodder to the internal rumor-mill, just as MKULTRA and other projects would have been in that rumor-mill. It only tinges the CIA day-to-day sociology with vague rumor. So as long as you keep it in place for what it is, the database would still find the true path. And it adds to layers of motive that might apply to any number of people, possibly even the technically, morally, intentionally and fundamentally guilty party -- or parties.I just don't think that either Helms or Angleton had foreknowledge 1/, and I can't find any indication that Meyer did -- unless some posters provide me concrete facts. But Meyer was in the same business as a "mastermind," just as Lansdale had been in that business. If Frank Wisner Sr. operated the "Mighty Wurlitzer" of world-wide CIA propaganda in contacts with journalists, editors and publishers around the globe, Meyer was plugged in to publishing and media in the US. So even if innocent, Meyer is close to the "Mastermind."It's just not a butterfly flapping its wings in Borneo. That's the long of it, the short of it, and the Truth of it.1/ I discount these men because of their post-assassination behavior. Helms was spurred to put in a panicky budget request for MKULTRA, and Angleton went on a rampage trying to find a mole in the Soviet Division, persecuting defectors like Nosenko, ruining our relationship with British intelligence, and nearly destroying it with the French. These aren't the behaviors of guilty men. Angleton was most certainly clinically paranoid. Helms may simply have been frightened out of his wits, manning the parapets.

I was interested to find a file on Meyer in the Weisberg archives. On inspection, this had little directly to do with the case, but more on the CIA in general. Much of it concerned Meyer's diplomatic cover being blown by a leak when he was CIA Head of London Station in the 1970's.What was interesting was the commentary that Head of London Station was seen as a bit of a backwater compared with his previous posts, when Meyer was seen as a high flyer. He had of course been overseeing the infiltration and management of International Student Organisations. Is it too much of a stretch to think that this would include the Cuban exile student organisations, such as were active in Miami and New Orleans? If so, Meyer would surely have been in contact with New Orleans Station chief George Joannides. From the other side, David Atlee Phillips was heading-up the operation to inflitrate the Fair Play for Cuba Committee - Phillips is the likely source of the out-of-date FPFC literature that Oswald was handing-out in New Orleans.This neatly brings us to the somewhat stage street confronation between Oslwald and the Anti-Castro Cubans (including [maybe] Senator Ted Cruz's father [N.B. not Father Ted]) - this could not have gone down without co-ordination between Joannides and Phillips and from on high, Meyer would have at least been informed.There is little hard evidence to back this up, but does anyone else see this as a circle being squared?

But I don't doubt that he and the other aggrieved government and MOB men whose women had been trysted by JFK wanted him dead. To quote the good book: Proverbs 6:34For jealousy is the rage of a man: therefore he will not spare in the day of vengeance.35He will not regard any ransom; neither will he rest content, though thou givest many gift. http://biblehub.com/kjv/proverbs/6.htm

This is from HSCA reasearcher, Dan Hardway's sworn statement in the recent case of JEFFERSON MORLEY V. CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY - for the release of materials pertaining to George Joannides :In the early 1960's, David Phillips was working at Headquarters where he, along with Cord Meyer, developed the first disinformation operations aimed at the Fair Play for Cuba Committee. This is also referenced to 'Oswald and the CIA' 240-241 - John Newman (Skyhorse Publishing 2008).So now the Chain is linked Meyer - Phillips - JoannidesAlso note that Hardway's original HSCA report of this dissappeared when in the custody of CIA and has never been fully recovered.Full statement is here:http://jfkfacts.org/wp-content/uploads/ ... ration.pdf

JDThomas wrote:This is from HSCA reasearcher, Dan Hardway's sworn statement in the recent case of JEFFERSON MORLEY V. CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY - for the release of materials pertaining to George Joannides :In the early 1960's, David Phillips was working at Headquarters where he, along with Cord Meyer, developed the first disinformation operations aimed at the Fair Play for Cuba Committee. This is also referenced to 'Oswald and the CIA' 240-241 - John Newman (Skyhorse Publishing 2008).So now the Chain is linked Meyer - Phillips - JoannidesAlso note that Hardway's original HSCA report of this dissappeared when in the custody of CIA and has never been fully recovered.Full statement is here:http://jfkfacts.org/wp-content/uploads/ ... fExcellent stuff, JD!