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Re: The Big Picture
Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 2:20 am
by Bob
tom jeffers wrote:kenmurray wrote:Great post there Tom. Plenty of reason why Oil men like Murchinson and others hated JFK.I came across this link of 3 reasons why JFK was murdered:
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/16654 ... Murderedin an earlier post i mentioned that big oil, the MIC and the Fed had basically the same cadre in the background. this was the actual power behind the hit. think of the king on a chess board. they move very little but are the real power. all the other pieces whether they know it or not move for the kings benefit. the queen would be the cia give the facts that they mingled with all the other players and minipulated them as they wished. they transcend country boundaries, and the rooks and bishops would be the mob, fbi, daalas police deptm secret service, and other higher players. chuck, jimmy, etc were the pawnsExcellent analysis Tom.
Re: The Big Picture
Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 5:24 am
by ThomZajac
Indeed.
Re: The Big Picture
Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 4:07 pm
by ThomZajac
Here's a "Big Picture" post from Bob long ago which I think is really good-And then there's this little piece of information from the book "Defrauding America": Much has been written about the role of the CIA factions in the assassination of President John F. Kennedy. It isn't the purpose of this book to go into that subject. However, the statements of relatively high- ranking former or present ONI and Navy officers relating to the JFK assassination are given within these pages for the reader to ponder.The Role of deep-cover CIA officer, Trenton Parker, has been described in earlier pages, and his function in the CIA's counter-intelligence unit, Pegasus. Parker had stated to me earlier that a CIA faction was responsible for the murder of JFK, and that Kennedy was advised three weeks before the assassination of a plan to assassinate him in one of three cities that Kennedy would be visiting. During an August 21, 1993, conversation, in response to my questions, Parker said that his Pegasus group had tape recordings of plans to assassinate Kennedy. I asked him, "What group were these tapes identifying?" Parker replied: "Rockefeller, Allen Dulles, Johnson of Texas, George Bush, and J. Edgar Hoover." I asked, "What was the nature of the conversation on these tapes?" I don't have the tapes now, because all the tape recordings were turned over to [Congressman] Larry McDonald. But I listened to the tape recordings and there were conversations between Rockefeller, [J. Edgar] Hoover, where [Nelson] Rockefeller asks, "Are we going to have any problems?" And he said, "No, we aren't going to have any problems. I checked with Dulles. If they do their job we'll do our job." There are a whole bunch of tapes, because Hoover didn't realize that his phone has been tapped. Parker had earlier mentioned to me that he had turned over a full box of files and tapes, documentation, and micro-fiche for the Pegasus operation in the Caribbean to Congressman Larry McDonald shortly before the Congressman boarded the ill-fated Korean Airlines Flight 007 that was shot down by the Russians. Plus, this is Wim's conclusion that I agree with...CONCLUSIONS: The plot to kill JFK originates from the very same forces that were working together on the Bay of Pigs and the plots to assassinate Fidel Castro: All these forces had their own reasons to recapture Cuba and to hate Kennedy, whom they also blamed for the failure of the Bay of Pigs. These groups were 1) The CIA with the approval of some of the highest government officials (like Johnson, Hoover, Ford and Nixon) 2) The anti Castro Cuban exiles 3) Mafiabosses Sam Giancana , Carlos Marcello and Santos Trafficante and 4) wealthy industrialists and Texan oilmen like H.L. Hunt, Syd Richardson and Clint Murchison. George H.W. Bush has documented connections to all four groups. Sam Giancana states in his biography that he knew Lyndon Johnson and Richard Nixon personally (to read the page click here), as well as the aforementioned oil millionaires and George Demohrenshildt (to read the page click here), , and that they planned the JFK assassination together. James Files, the confessed grassy knoll assassin who fired the fatal shot into JFK's head, did not only work for Sam Giancana, but was recruited in the CIA to train Cuban exiles for the Bay of Pigs, by none other than David Atlee Phillips. He claims that one of his later senior supervisors in covert operations was George H.W. Bush. Lyndon Johnson told his mistress Madeline Brown: "It was the CIA and the Oilboys". Bush was both ! In addition he was up to his neck in the Bay of Pigs and the anti Castro movement. What is the chance he could not have known about the plot? David Atlee Phillips was also the CIA supervisor for Lee Harvey Oswald, a heroic man that was unwittingly chosen to take the blame as the patsy, while led to believe he was to penetrate the group of assassins in order to sabotage the plot and prevent JFK's assassination. On November 22, 1963 a criminal power elite seized control through a coup d'etat and a subsequent cover up of the truth that lasts until today. This is because they strengthened their position ever since. The key to unlocking the truth lies in one of their most powerful assets: the mainstream media. That is why you were not aware of most of the above ! It is clear that Bush protected the cover-up, as well as individuals and CIA elements that were involved in the JFK assassination. Although the above may not be conclusive evidence for Bush's involvement or knowledge about JFK's murder, all together a bigger and more criminal picture than many of us dare to imagine, emerges, with a direct connection to the political situation of today.
Re: The Big Picture
Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 1:17 am
by kenmurray
Re: The Big Picture
Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 1:53 am
by kenmurray
Re: The Big Picture
Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 7:21 am
by ThomZajac
This one is a little dated, and the notion that Humes may have lied is not conisdered, but it is compelling nevertheless- and offers a glimpse of the big picture...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=EE5FIzf6T4A
Re: The Big Picture
Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 7:47 am
by andries
Through the years i ,ve been wondering is there any reason at all ,with Kennedy,s policy and future plans in mind, why he NOT should have been killed by that formal gouverment,did that gouverment had a aliby, or explenation or a proof of refutation to reject open secrets that they all hated him ?? I cannot find one reason Just like a moose in a grizzlypool
Re: The Big Picture
Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 12:46 pm
by kenmurray
Re: The Big Picture
Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 3:14 pm
by Bob
kenmurray wrote:Dallas Sheriff's Office & The Nash Rambler:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDl5pDJr ... relatedThe Press Cars And The Military Aides:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUUH9jNS ... atedGerald Ford And Jim Garrison In 1967:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lixaRjLx ... Ken...once again you make the big picture that much bigger with your links!
Re: The Big Picture
Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 9:24 am
by andries
What did happen with that fireball of james files given to him by D A Philips ,does he remember that ?Find that equal interesting as the mauser that was found, and all of a sudden wasn,t there anymore.i know the US gouverment sometimes can move or remove mountains,they would even if they could move the mutch more specteculair canadian rocky,s into the state off Washington.But verry little to find about that.