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Re: Interesting vid about the Grassy Knoll
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 11:13 pm
by steve manning
ChristophMessner wrote:The trajectory from JFK's rear head wound location through his side head front wound location (above the temple) does not lead to the white wall, not lead to the badgeman location, not lead to the pergola, not lead to Gordon Arnold, but leads more to the railroad worker area on or beneath the overpass.This I've brought up before, and to be honest have not ruled out in my thinking....My problem is that I've never been there, but I think Google maps gives what appears to be a pretty good view of what the angle must have been. Anyway, that is my two cents worth.Steve
Re: Interesting vid about the Grassy Knoll
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 11:20 pm
by steve manning
tom jeffers wrote:i do not think, with the evidence available, that you can accurately show the trajectory. jfk's skull fractured probably from chuckies rear shot and jimmys side shot occuring almost simultaneously. jimmys bullet exploded on impact and went a hundred different ways. who knows how his bullet reacted hence my reply.namaste'Dr Charles Crenshaw described the head wound as a "plowed out area from the temple to occipital area." Its often tempting to blur reality, in order to avoid calling for a more precise (if not exact) meaning. People try to do something similar with the Bible; it was written so long ago, who knows what it really means, etc. If there is not enough evidence then so be it, but reread the testimony of the Parkland Doctors. Steve
Re: Interesting vid about the Grassy Knoll
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 11:45 pm
by tom jeffers
just be careful because a few of the doctors have changed their story slightly.
Re: Interesting vid about the Grassy Knoll
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 12:26 am
by ThomZajac
Steve wrote;"Dr Charles Crenshaw described the head wound as a "plowed out area from the temple to occipital area." Its often tempting to blur reality, in order to avoid calling for a more precise (if not exact) meaning. People try to do something similar with the Bible; it was written so long ago, who knows what it really means, etc. If there is not enough evidence then so be it, but reread the testimony of the Parkland Doctors." I had never heard of this before. And so I have a few questions.Where is it from?WHEN did he say it?Thanks!
Re: Interesting vid about the Grassy Knoll
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 1:21 am
by kenmurray
ThomZajac wrote:Steve wrote;"Dr Charles Crenshaw described the head wound as a "plowed out area from the temple to occipital area." Its often tempting to blur reality, in order to avoid calling for a more precise (if not exact) meaning. People try to do something similar with the Bible; it was written so long ago, who knows what it really means, etc. If there is not enough evidence then so be it, but reread the testimony of the Parkland Doctors." I had never heard of this before. And so I have a few questions.Where is it from?WHEN did he say it?Thanks!In this video, Dr. Crenshaw mentioned a "huge plowed out area":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GR_nozcE ... re=related
Re: Interesting vid about the Grassy Knoll
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 2:06 am
by ThomZajac
Thanks Ken!This is the first I've heard of observation from a Parkland doctor of an right temporal entry wound. I will email David Lifton and get his take on this.
Re: Interesting vid about the Grassy Knoll
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 5:49 pm
by Pasquale DiFabrizio
I just had a thought about the magic bullet. At 5:14 into the video, they compare the magic bullet/pristine bullet to two identical bullets, one bullet having been fired through the wrist of a human cadavor and the other having been fired into a goat.There's absolutely no comparison at all between those test bullets and magic bullet. It's plain as day that the magic bullet did not do anything close to what the Warren Commission said it did.Here's the thought I had. It seems to me that maybe, just maybe, the perpetrators of the assassination, or the higher-ups who backed it and put it into play, WANTED the public to know that it was a set up. I liken it to a sort of arrogance. It's kind of like they (the perpetrators of the assassination) are saying, "Yeah, it WAS a set up. You see? We can get to anybody." The difference between the test bullets and the magic bullet are so obvious, that I started asking myself, could these people who planted that magic bullet in the hallway of the hospital actually be that stupid? How easy would it have been to fire a bullet into a wood pile or something, and plant THAT bullet in the hallway of the hospital. At least THAT bullet would have been deformed.I'm beginning to suspect that they planted that pristine bullet intentionally as a message. "Don't mess with us." Ask yourself this. How many people are affraid to post things on-line or really write things that challenge authority because they're affraid of "big brother" coming after them? I'm being totally serious here. People like us here on this forum are the exception because we post all the time, but I've met MANY people who have even told me to "be careful" about what I write because of "big brother" watching. If the goal of planting that magic bullet was to SHOW the general public that "they" can get away with anything and to watch out, it worked, don't you think?
Re: Interesting vid about the Grassy Knoll
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 6:17 pm
by tom jeffers
Re: Interesting vid about the Grassy Knoll
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 6:43 pm
by ThomZajac
Pasquale DiFabrizio wrote:I just had a thought about the magic bullet. At 5:14 into the video, they compare the magic bullet/pristine bullet to two identical bullets, one bullet having been fired through the wrist of a human cadavor and the other having been fired into a goat.There's absolutely no comparison at all between those test bullets and magic bullet. It's plain as day that the magic bullet did not do anything close to what the Warren Commission said it did.Here's the thought I had. It seems to me that maybe, just maybe, the perpetrators of the assassination, or the higher-ups who backed it and put it into play, WANTED the public to know that it was a set up. I liken it to a sort of arrogance. It's kind of like they (the perpetrators of the assassination) are saying, "Yeah, it WAS a set up. You see? We can get to anybody." The difference between the test bullets and the magic bullet are so obvious, that I started asking myself, could these people who planted that magic bullet in the hallway of the hospital actually be that stupid? How easy would it have been to fire a bullet into a wood pile or something, and plant THAT bullet in the hallway of the hospital. At least THAT bullet would have been deformed.I'm beginning to suspect that they planted that pristine bullet intentionally as a message. "Don't mess with us." Ask yourself this. How many people are affraid to post things on-line or really write things that challenge authority because they're affraid of "big brother" coming after them? I'm being totally serious here. People like us here on this forum are the exception because we post all the time, but I've met MANY people who have even told me to "be careful" about what I write because of "big brother" watching. If the goal of planting that magic bullet was to SHOW the general public that "they" can get away with anything and to watch out, it worked, don't you think?Well, there certainly was a bit of arrogance about shooting the president on a public street in broad daylight, but I've got a very good explanation for the pristine magic bullet-It' was planted, obviously. but it's original purpose was NOT to provide an explanation for all the horrendous wounds to Connally and some wounds to the president. No, no, no.The original purpose of the magic bullet was to have it fall out of the president's shallow back wound, which was added after Parkland. It's purpose was to implicate Oswald.Later, when it was realized that the throat wound could not be determined to be an exit wound caused by fragments from the fatal head shot (because the Zapruder film and other eye witness evidence clearly established the throat wound had occurred well before the fatal head shot- sorry Wim), another explanation had to be provided. The non-transit back wound was changed to transit, and it was miraculously moved up about six inches.
Re: Interesting vid about the Grassy Knoll
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 8:44 pm
by Bob
ThomZajac wrote:Pasquale DiFabrizio wrote:I just had a thought about the magic bullet. At 5:14 into the video, they compare the magic bullet/pristine bullet to two identical bullets, one bullet having been fired through the wrist of a human cadavor and the other having been fired into a goat.There's absolutely no comparison at all between those test bullets and magic bullet. It's plain as day that the magic bullet did not do anything close to what the Warren Commission said it did.Here's the thought I had. It seems to me that maybe, just maybe, the perpetrators of the assassination, or the higher-ups who backed it and put it into play, WANTED the public to know that it was a set up. I liken it to a sort of arrogance. It's kind of like they (the perpetrators of the assassination) are saying, "Yeah, it WAS a set up. You see? We can get to anybody." The difference between the test bullets and the magic bullet are so obvious, that I started asking myself, could these people who planted that magic bullet in the hallway of the hospital actually be that stupid? How easy would it have been to fire a bullet into a wood pile or something, and plant THAT bullet in the hallway of the hospital. At least THAT bullet would have been deformed.I'm beginning to suspect that they planted that pristine bullet intentionally as a message. "Don't mess with us." Ask yourself this. How many people are affraid to post things on-line or really write things that challenge authority because they're affraid of "big brother" coming after them? I'm being totally serious here. People like us here on this forum are the exception because we post all the time, but I've met MANY people who have even told me to "be careful" about what I write because of "big brother" watching. If the goal of planting that magic bullet was to SHOW the general public that "they" can get away with anything and to watch out, it worked, don't you think?Well, there certainly was a bit of arrogance about shooting the president on a public street in broad daylight, but I've got a very good explanation for the pristine magic bullet-It' was planted, obviously. but it's original purpose was NOT to provide an explanation for all the horrendous wounds to Connally and some wounds to the president. No, no, no.The original purpose of the magic bullet was to have it fall out of the president's shallow back wound, which was added after Parkland. It's purpose was to implicate Oswald.Later, when it was realized that the throat wound could not be determined to be an exit wound caused by fragments from the fatal head shot (because the Zapruder film and other eye witness evidence clearly established the throat wound had occurred well before the fatal head shot- sorry Wim), another explanation had to be provided. The non-transit back wound was changed to transit, and it was miraculously moved up about six inches.Nice synopsis there TZ. You are certainly smarter than the average California Bear.