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Re: What do we Believe?
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 2:12 pm
by andries
Yes Joe, with a little imagionation Patton entire six armee was probably involved in the shooting.That,s very poor buisines for us,but very amusing for lone nutters.But the most dearest joy still is our freedom off speech of what we think.I fully agree that there a lot off people out there stating all kinds of spectaculiar stuffOne more logical reason for me to eat my diner hot.and not mutch later by warming it up a second time,it spoils and fade,s away it,s naturel tasteSame goes for tracks and traces i like,m hot and fresh
Re: What do we Believe?
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 4:06 pm
by Bob
Interesting banter folks. From my perspective, I think we can debate certain areas about the assassination via threads created by whomever, but I would suggest we keep the discussion about the subject at hand and if we want to break off into another aspect of discussion, then create another thread. That way, when a new forum member wants to review things, or if someone just wants a refresher, than can look at the subject thread and find out information relating to that subject. I have been on both sides of the street here. I have created threads that ended up going in another direction, and I have also been part of discussions that have veered off the original subject matter. That's my take, for what it is worth.
Re: What do we Believe?
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 4:14 pm
by Dealey Joe
I think it is a great idea BobI don't know if the oldboys can do that.they are kinda like a shotgun blast, tend to go in any direction.I'm glad I am not guilty of that. one thing opens up another.I know that is the idea of the forum
Re: What do we Believe?
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 5:38 pm
by Kirk
Dealey Joe,I lot of what you said hits home for me as well.ThanksDealey Joe wrote:AndriesI hear you, It does get hard to deal with if you are not a researcher and getting into new areas.And I certainly agree that 99% of all that people saw, heard or think is Bullshit.Human nature makes some people want to be part of whatever happened.puts them in the "know" so to speek. Their mind keeps playing with it till they totally beleivewhat they are telling. I have seen it happen.I know we are all diferent but as for me I know there are things in the past that Ithought for sure, but when I really get down to it I am not sure that maybe I didn't just dream it.Especially when I was a kid.I will never get done with the JFK affair. it was too close to me as I was just the right age when if all happenedI don't know that I will ever put it down. It also intrigues me when I see younger people who are caught upin the magic of it. It affected my life and changed things forever.I have always know that the LHO theory was bullshit and as time went on I knew it even more.I am satisfied to learn more about the central figures. What lit the fire under me was when I saw the history channeldocumentary 'The Men Who Killed Kennedy" and listened to Judyth Vary Baker.I did not know all this research was going on but her information stuck in my mind and for a few years it just kept onbothering me so I ordereed the series from History Channel but guess what, the last 3 parts were not included in it.That really got me on the trail and I was able to obtain a copy of the 3 segments,I have a habit that I can listen to or talk to someone and be able to tell if they are basically truthful.It has always worked fo me and never one time failed me.So from the JVB thing I come to find this website and am truely grateful to Wim and you all for staying in the trenches so that others can know some truth about it all. After a while it gets old and you get tired of hearing all the different theories aboutall the crap. But the real reason we do this is for the education of others and to keep their heritage alive.That is our job. we will possibly not live long enough to see all this righted but if we can keep the memories alive in the younger generations along with getting some pleasure out of doing it "WHAT A REWARD"I have to be thankful for all the people and factions involved even if I don't see eye to eye with them.even old Gary Mack is doing a job helping to keep the history going, Even though we think he is missledhe still has a story to tell and evidentslly the finances to back it up with.These people are doing this for a couple possible reasons, they are trying to cover up something or they actually beleive what they are saying, or just love to be out in front leading.either way it comes out the same.,Our job is to keep available the other side of the story backed with good evidence so people cancome find the truth. People are not stupid and the ones I saw Sunday in Dallas were very receptive and hungry for a plausable answer to all this. they don't want to take Gary mack's story as the truth.It's funny when I think about it, They are trying to prove us wrong. All we re doing is presenting the facts.Who are people who are still able to reason going to belaive.Bob Groden is not setting down there telling people THEY ARE WRONG, he just talls them here is how it is.and gives them an oportunity to learn.I have the greatest respect for Robert Groden, he has always been out on the firing line and I don't think it has beenprosporus for him. I also have great respect for people like Wim, Jim Marrs, Ed Haslam and many others who have been willing to stay out there in front and get shot at.and tell their story. It is always easy to run.It is time for others to step up to the plate.I am sure we can find a couple people to go to Dalas next year to help.another thing, this forum is just a side show for the real job this website is doing.Well enough rambling. your fault you started it!
Re: What do we Believe?
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 5:41 pm
by Kirk
Bob,Sounds good to me, if I understand it.ThanksBob wrote:Interesting banter folks. From my perspective, I think we can debate certain areas about the assassination via threads created by whomever, but I would suggest we keep the discussion about the subject at hand and if we want to break off into another aspect of discussion, then create another thread. That way, when a new forum member wants to review things, or if someone just wants a refresher, than can look at the subject thread and find out information relating to that subject. I have been on both sides of the street here. I have created threads that ended up going in another direction, and I have also been part of discussions that have veered off the original subject matter. That's my take, for what it is worth.
Re: What do we Believe?
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 6:05 pm
by Dealey Joe
Bob wrote:Interesting banter folks. From my perspective, I think we can debate certain areas about the assassination via threads created by whomever, but I would suggest we keep the discussion about the subject at hand and if we want to break off into another aspect of discussion, then create another thread. That way, when a new forum member wants to review things, or if someone just wants a refresher, than can look at the subject thread and find out information relating to that subject. I have been on both sides of the street here. I have created threads that ended up going in another direction, and I have also been part of discussions that have veered off the original subject matter. That's my take, for what it is worth.Bob are you thinking we are out in left field on this topic?Seems like I can't say anything without tellin a whole dam story!
Re: What do we Believe?
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 6:51 pm
by Bob
Dealey Joe wrote:Bob wrote:Interesting banter folks. From my perspective, I think we can debate certain areas about the assassination via threads created by whomever, but I would suggest we keep the discussion about the subject at hand and if we want to break off into another aspect of discussion, then create another thread. That way, when a new forum member wants to review things, or if someone just wants a refresher, than can look at the subject thread and find out information relating to that subject. I have been on both sides of the street here. I have created threads that ended up going in another direction, and I have also been part of discussions that have veered off the original subject matter. That's my take, for what it is worth.Bob are you thinking we are out in left field on this topic?Seems like I can't say anything without tellin a whole dam story! All is cool DJ. Besides, although I played SS, when I didn't, I usually played LF. No idea is a bad idea. More voices...more opinions...more discussion...more education. That is how this forum has grown. To me (although I'm clearly biased), we have the best damn JFK assassination forum on the web...bar none.
Re: What do we Believe?
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 7:19 pm
by Dealey Joe
I heared that..Where is Wim and Bruce?
Re: What do we Believe?
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:31 pm
by andries
Perhaps we should produce the first most likely reliable JFK conspiracy encyclopediait,s verry easy just just the events, persons, etc etc a vieuw different vallues involved for instanceunlikely-likely most likely -fact.for the dark site, so they have something new to discuss
Re: What do we Believe?
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:09 pm
by Bob
Dealey Joe wrote:I heared that..Where is Wim and Bruce?Bruce popped in yesterday for awhile. I'm not sure about Wim, but he's always busy. Bottom line, we need to get Wim on Black Op Radio and at the next COPA conference. I wrote Len Osanic at Black Op Radio and told him that Wim would be an excellent guest. The time would be tough for Wim, as it would be the middle of the night in the Netherlands when the show is broadcast, but it should still happen. Len's email address is
osanic@prouty.org. More of you should write him. I'm also going to contact John Geraghty and John Judge about having Wim at the next COPA conference...if nothing else...by video, like Dr. Wecht was this year. John G is a member of our forum, although I haven't heard from him for awhile.