"Jennifer Lake" On Fetzer Radio

[Dealey Joe]

I finally got it, well she is something else, sounds well educated buy does a lot of "I Thinking"

[Pasquale DiFabrizio]

Dealey Joe wrote:I finally got it, well she is something else, sounds well educated buy does a lot of "I Thinking"I really like how she doesn't ramble and gets right to the point. NOT!!! I thought I was a little dizzy after my glass of wine. My GOD!!!!Could you hear the noises that Jim Fetzer was making while she was rambling? LOL I couldn't tell if he was making a milk shake, dozing off in his chair, or yawning or something. As you-know-who is most-likely reading our forum (being too chicken s**t to say something except for BEHIND our backs), all I can to them is this. Bring it on. Am I SPOOKING you yet? BOO!She certainly has given us enough material to HACK into, eh? LMOA!!!!

[Pasquale DiFabrizio]

Seriously though, I have absolutely NO respect for her because, in my opinion and experience with her, she is a very rude person who is out to make a name for herself by stepping on others.That is my opinion. If she can tell mutual friends, or imply, that I'm a spook or somehow had her flagged and that my friends here, you guys, are spooks, she is exactly the type who will stick you in the back when it suits her no matter how nice you are to her. I HOPE Jim Fetzer is reading this. He has my e-mail address, and he can ask me to prove what I'm saying. I was nothing but nice to her UNTIL she got it in her head that you guys here and I are spooks had her "flagged" and somehow got her blog (or brown LOG...LOL) hacked into. When I disagreed with her and told her the time of day, she was RUDE to me. Rude people deserve their karma. So, I say again. Bring it on.

[Dealey Joe]

"Pasquale Jim gave her an hour in the spotlight.It was good for her I'm thinking. It is a little nerve wracking to do that and she was very nervous.I thought she would be more accustom to being in the spotlight.It is much easier to attack from the keyboard where you can fine tune your thoughts.Mz. Lake, you can tell ,is a well educated gal but I got the feeling what she knew, was what she has been told.She was trying to show she is a researcher but I didn't see a difference in what she was saying thatis different than what Ed and Judyth have said all along.The big thing I see is that Judyth was dealing with viruses that Lake called software and are not living things.50 years ago viruses mat have been looked at a little differently. I got the feeling she did not really understand her stance as if she was mouthing what someone else is telling her not what she knows.She did not convince me on her theory of viruses.The mistake she made was to attack Ed Haslam who is tremendously more informed than she is.She is making a BIG MISTAKE taking on Judyth Vary Baker.But all that said we could use her on our side. She just needs to get off the attack and Smell the Roses and get her training from another source.A smart girl like her can learn very quickly. All she needs to do is to align herself with those who can help herinstead of control her.I congratulate Jim Fetzer for having the courtesy to give her a chance to show her stuff.Maybe she will wake up and start doing things that open doors for herself and help with real research.

[kenmurray]

Joe, she can start by using her real name.

[Dealey Joe]

Well you are probably correctbut I am giving her the benefit of the doubt.I think she just wants to be a mouthpiece for the wrong cause.There are many on these forums that should come out if the closet?

[Pasquale DiFabrizio]

kenmurray wrote:Joe, she can start by using her real name. Exactly. That's a particularly appropriate comment given the fact that she's the one saying that OTHERS are spooks.

[Pasquale DiFabrizio]

Dealey Joe wrote:"Pasquale Jim gave her an hour in the spotlight.It was good for her I'm thinking. It is a little nerve wracking to do that and she was very nervous.I thought she would be more accustom to being in the spotlight.It is much easier to attack from the keyboard where you can fine tune your thoughts.Mz. Lake, you can tell ,is a well educated gal but I got the feeling what she knew, was what she has been told.She was trying to show she is a researcher but I didn't see a difference in what she was saying thatis different than what Ed and Judyth have said all along.The big thing I see is that Judyth was dealing with viruses that Lake called software and are not living things.50 years ago viruses mat have been looked at a little differently. I got the feeling she did not really understand her stance as if she was mouthing what someone else is telling her not what she knows.She did not convince me on her theory of viruses.The mistake she made was to attack Ed Haslam who is tremendously more informed than she is.She is making a BIG MISTAKE taking on Judyth Vary Baker.But all that said we could use her on our side. She just needs to get off the attack and Smell the Roses and get her training from another source.A smart girl like her can learn very quickly. All she needs to do is to align herself with those who can help herinstead of control her.I congratulate Jim Fetzer for having the courtesy to give her a chance to show her stuff.Maybe she will wake up and start doing things that open doors for herself and help with real research.I don't doubt her intelligence at all. If she has a case, let her make it. I just didn't appreciate her attitude. I also suspect that her motive is to sitr the pot and create division. It became clear to me where the supposed attitude came from. As she told a mutual friend, she suspected that the reason her blog got hacked into was because either I had her "flagged" or that one of you did it. In and of itself, those suspicions are just that, suspicions, but to ACT on those suspicions is what caused the rift. What I clearly understand in hindsight is that if someone DID hack into her blog, it doesn't and didn't have to do with us. She supposedly could not see that. If ANYBODY "flagged" her, it was she who flagged herself. We're not the only ones who read this forum. She's smart enough to realize that, so why didn't she? Was it to create division? I suspect that it was just that. For a while, she had ME suspecting that my friends weren't on the level and might be spooks too. I'm just thankful that she showed her true colors to me and I was able to make things better over here with us. The bottom line is that after she almost drove a wedge between us here, she bailed. Then she started telling a mutual friend (and God knows who else) bad and untrue things about you guys and me like the idea that I had her "flagged" and that she suspected that one of you guys hacked into her blog. Then she gave an ultimatum to one of the people running a discussion group that I was in. The ultimatum was that she would stay only if I go. As I was told by our mutual friend that "a lot of people" in our discussion group really like Jenny Lake, that I would basically either have to take a break from the discussion group. I don't play like that. It's manipulative and deceptive. Ms. Lake knows exactly what I'm talking about. She also reminds me of this woman who used to come into and out of this bar I used to go to who would tell people that she was a direct relative of Moses because her last name was Regal or something like that. It's delusional, kind of like her "spook" and "flagged" BS about me and you guys. So, she gets to lie about me and us, cause division like she did between us here and in another group, AND hide her identity. How interesting that is. Sounds like she's fits the profile of a spook to me.I'm being totally serious. Oh, I almost forgot to mention. It seems that she when she returned all my stuff EXCEPT for Ed Haslam's book, she meant to use it on a "radio show" and THEN give it back to me. That mutual friend of mine and Ms. Lake's told me this. That person just didn't tell me it was Fetzer's radio show. As Ed Haslam was generous enough to actually send me a copy of his book to replace it, I told that mutual friend to tell Ms. Lake to just keep the book as I didn't want any further contact. It seems that Ms. Lake sent me a card saying something about me getting my "monkey" back. It wasn't signed and only initialed "J," and it was addressed to "P" with no return address. When I DIDN'T get Dr. Mary's Monkey back, how was I supposed to know that she wanted to use it for Fetzer's radio show? I remember thinking, "Where's my book?" It's mine and I paid for it. THEN that mutual friend told me that she was keeping it to use as reference for a radio show. Actually, that mutual friend told me to stop talking about Ms. Lake in a negative way because Ms. Lake was calling her and bugging her about it. Nice of them to let me know about the book before hand. So, she also seems like the type of person who will borrow something from you and return it to you on HER terms and not when you ask for it back.The other alternative, which I suspect is what really happened, is that she was trying to stir the pot again by giving me my books and videos back EXCEPT for Ed Haslam's book. Maybe she did it to get me to react negatively. In my opinion, she fits the description of a provocateur or an agent provocateur...a spook. We've all seen those types here on this forum and at other places, and we know how to root them out and expose them for who they are.

[Dealey Joe]

I don't know anyone here who is into Hacking. I wouldn't know where to start to do that?It is a shame she is on the wrong side of the fence.Usually what we see wrong in others is because we see it in ourselves..Even with all the crap going on around her and he obvious agenda.There is something about her I like.I would be happy to pay for her book, maybe she will learn something?It is one of the most informative and important books she will ever read

[Pasquale DiFabrizio]

Dealey Joe wrote:I don't know anyone here who is into Hacking. I wouldn't know where to start to do that?It is a shame she is on the wrong side of the fence.Usually what we see wrong in others is because we see it in ourselves..Even with all the crap going on around her and he obvious agenda.There is something about her I like.I would be happy to pay for her book, maybe she will learn something?It is one of the most informative and important books she will ever readShe already has a copy of the book, and I am sure she is going through it very carefully. Good for her. She can be very likeable. I know from experience. It's also my experience that I got burned very badly. I was snapped at by her on at least two occasions. I gave her the time of day when she started talking down to me about you guys here, saying something like "You don't know your friends very well, do you." So, let her make her case, but tread carefully with her. After all, she doesn't even use her real name.