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Re: Fundamental Flaws of the Warren Commission
Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 9:35 pm
by Alex Hidell
Haven't read Doug Horne's book but I will, based on your recommendation.I have read so many recounts of the autopsy, I will be surprised if he offers anything new but I am always willing to learn, thx.
Re: Fundamental Flaws of the Warren Commission
Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 10:33 am
by Davyjones
Can i ask members to take a look at thishttp://insidethearrb.livejournal.com/It seems to indicate that the first autopsy (which was burned) says the throat wound came from head shot from the rear. Maybe this was more correct? Maybe JFKs reaction (hands up to throat) was as a result to the shot in the back)
Re: Fundamental Flaws of the Warren Commission
Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 3:51 pm
by Alex Hidell
Davey, Davey, Davey,The doctors in Bethesda didn't even know there was a neck wound after the first set of notes were burned.JFK was hit in the neck at frame 188.He was hit in back at frame 225.He was hit in head at frame 313.3 seperate and distinct wounds at three different times.Back wound did penetrate chest cavity.
Re: Fundamental Flaws of the Warren Commission
Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 4:55 pm
by Davyjones
Alex, whats your take on J Files confession.
Re: Fundamental Flaws of the Warren Commission
Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 5:39 pm
by Alex Hidell
Couple of thoughts-Do any of us know FOR SURE that Files is telling the truth? No, we don't.Was there someone shooting at JFK from behind the picket fence that day? ABSOLUTELY.Did the mob have great motivation to hit JFK because he was threatening their way of life? ABSOLUTELY.Putting 2 + 2 together, Files confession certainly fits the facts as most of us have come to know them.Either Files or someone else shot JFK in the right temple that day and killed him.Medical evidence is very clear on this point.One thing we all know FOR SURE, Oswald didn't do it. He was eating his lunch in the 2nd floor cafeteria at the time.
Re: Fundamental Flaws of the Warren Commission
Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 10:32 pm
by kenmurray
From 1965: The Warren Commission's Case Against Oswald.
http://karws.gso.uri.edu/jfk/the_critic ... swald.html
Re: Fundamental Flaws of the Warren Commission
Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 12:02 am
by Alex Hidell
Major flaw of this report- They have Oswald at the window on the 6th floor firing at JFK and NO ONE, I mean, NO ONE can verify Oswald was ever at that window firing a gun...NO ONE.
Re: Fundamental Flaws of the Warren Commission
Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 8:15 pm
by Davyjones
Alex..thanks for your response. We both think Oswald was in the canteen,we both think the Mafia did the dirty work.You think Files may have took the head shot and I sure think he did. At this moment I am still unconvinced about a frontal neck shot and I think Big Money decided it was to happen and gave the work to the Mafia. Still we aint that far apart on this.
Re: Fundamental Flaws of the Warren Commission
Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 10:59 pm
by Alex Hidell
Davy, I suggest you study the Z film. Either as a film or look thru the individual frames included in the 26 Vol WC testimony.A couple of things jump out at you from the stills -1. Each time a gun was fired, Z flinched and caused the film to blur. First blur around frame 153, this was the initial shot that hit the pavement behind JFK limo.2. 2nd blur is around frame 187. This was the second shot and it hit JFK in the throat. He can be seen very quickly reaching up to grab at his throat in the next few frames. Approx 99.99% of the JFK reserach community agrees with this analysis. In fact, you are the first person I have ever talked to who didn't see this in the Z filmBest advice on the Z Film- get Robert Groden's book "Killing of a President" it is the definitive analysis of the Z film. None better.Bottom Line- JFK is hit in the throat somewhere between frames 186-188 and can be seen as early as frame 190 reacting to the shot. EVERY medical professional who examined JFK at Parkland said his throat wound was a wound of entry- EVERY SINGLE ONE- NO DISSENTERS.
Re: Fundamental Flaws of the Warren Commission
Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 12:13 pm
by Davyjones
Wow I am the only person who sees it as a back shot?(In fact, you are the first person I have ever talked to who didn't see this in the Z film)-AlexOk I will take another look.