Another Zapruder Film Point of Interest

[tom jeffers]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18mRE5sQ ... elatedHERE WE GO AGAIN. LOOKS LIKE SOMEBODY GOT AHOLD OF SOME EDITING SOFTWARE.NAMASTE'

[Bob]

tom jeffers wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18mRE5sQ ... elatedHERE WE GO AGAIN. LOOKS LIKE SOMEBODY GOT AHOLD OF SOME EDITING SOFTWARE.NAMASTE'Yes indeed Tom. Greer did a LOT of things wrong that day. In fact, I believe he, Kellerman and Roberts were all involved in the assassination as members of the secret service. But Greer did not shoot JFK...he stopped the car...he drove like an old lady in Florida...but he did not shoot JFK. First Roberts waved off the SS men that would have been on the back of JFK's limo at Love Field. Then we had the shady performances of BOTH Kellerman and Greer at Dealey Plaza. At the first sound of gunfire, Greer should have driven like a bat out of hell and Kellerman should have been all over JFK.

[ThomZajac]

While it is important to consider every possibility, William Greer shooting JFK does not hold up under scrutiny. I hesitate to say that it would have been highly illogical to have the driver shoot JFK (risk of being seen or photographed would have been way too high) because such logic has often been used as a reason not to look closely at evidence. But closer examination shows the 'gun' to be the sun reflecting in the hair of the SS agent in the passenger seat (again, too old to remember his name, too lazy to look it up). Further, and I'm going on memory on this one, Greer's left arm never leaves the steering wheel.But as Bob says, Greer was a key player, and I believe his instructions were to bring the car to a complete stop in the event JFK hadn't obviously been killed by the time the limo reached a given point. Greer, I believe, was guilty of murder, but not because he pulled a trigger.

[ThomZajac]

Also, as I've mentioned before, I think it can be proven that the Zapruder film has been altered (and had the driver actually shot JFK, that section surely would not have survived the editing). Thanks to Bob who posted the following link on a different thread...video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6264396057713515921

[kenmurray]

Here is Vince Palamara presentaion at Slippery Rock University in 2007: http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread317858/pg1

[Bob]

kenmurray wrote:Here is Vince Palamara presentaion at Slippery Rock University in 2007: http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thr ... 1Excellent link once again Ken.

[kenmurray]

Thanks Bob.

[ThomZajac]

Thanks! I've been looking for the youtube Secret Service segment narrated by Peter Jennings shown on part three and here it s- fantastic.It seems to me that the conspirators used "The president is beyond reckless and has greatly compromised national security" in two ways.First, in the planning of the assassination as a cover story to tell participants (those who may not have wanted to kill JFK for the real reasons).And secondly, to use as a cover story for those who did not buy the lone assassin fairy tale, or the first cover story of Castro or the Russians did it because we were plotting to kill Castro blah blah blah.And thirdly, should the lone assassin fairy tale and the first cover story ever get completely blown, this is what they'll tell the American people. That's what Peter Jennings was preparing the American people for; in the interest of national security it had become necessary to kill our own reckless president. I suspect that he might even believe that. And i wouldn't be surprised if the CIA created some false tapes or evidence and used them to demonstrate that point. THE PRESIDENT WAS SO RECKLESS AND HE WAS COMPROMISING NATIONAL SECURITY TO SUCH A DEGREE THAT HE HAD TO BE REMOVED IMMEDIATELY- WAITING EVEN ANOTHER MINUTE MIGHT LEAD TO THE DEATH OF US ALL. That's why it was necessary to kill him, and that is why it had to be covered up. I mean, can't you just imagine the guys on Fox saying that tomorrow if the truth were to finally come out?

[ChristophMessner]

Recently I saw a high resolution enlightened version of Zapruder on youtube somewhere and it caught my eye, that after Connally slumped into his wife's lap he beamed up again and his right arm seems to through the hat or something over board. Did you see that, too? So he was not unconscious that fast and it is even possible that he received his bullet(s) past Z350!

[Pasquale DiFabrizio]

ChristophMessner wrote:Recently I saw a high resolution enlightened version of Zapruder on youtube somewhere and it caught my eye, that after Connally slumped into his wife's lap he beamed up again and his right arm seems to through the hat or something over board. Did you see that, too? So he was not unconscious that fast and it is even possible that he received his bullet(s) past Z350!It might be possible. We spend a lot of time talking about how one bullet didn't do all of the damage that the magic bullet is claimed to have done that we sometimes forget to consider just how many bullets were most-likely fired at the President in the first place.If you look at the wounds allegedly created by the magic bullet, you can count a few bullets fired to have done all that. You have a wound in JFK's back. #1The bullet that traversed Conally's torso (if you accept that one bullet traversed his torso). #2Then there's the bullet wound in Conally's wrist. #3Then there's the bullet wound in Conally's thigh #4. I cound 4 bullets fired, excluding the headshot. If you think that the same bullet that traversed Conally's wrist was the same bullet that made the hole in his leg, you still have 3 bullets. Then you have the shot that missed and hit James Tague. Then you have the two headshots (according to Cyril Wecht and James Files.)I'm up to 5 and probably 6 shots now. Excluding the headshots, you have at least 3 and probably 4 shots necessary to make all those wounds. Of course, if you count the windshield damage as a bullet, now you have 6 or possibly 7 shots. If you had three teams of shooters, that would only be three shots per team. There were more people shooting from the rear than just Nicoletti. If there was just one other shooter from the rear, they would all have had to fire three shots each...I think.I'm thinking three or even FOUR teams. Okay, enough ranting for now. Somebody help me with my math here. I think I've seen too many fireworks tonight.