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Jack Ruby And The Shooting of Lee Oswald

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 4:56 pm
by kenmurray
I cam across this on the internet that I haven't heard before and find this to be really strange: http://www.rense.com/general73/ruby.htm

Re: Jack Ruby And The Shooting of Lee Oswald

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 5:14 pm
by Bob
I read that once before Ken. Strange story, just like all the Oswald stuff, like being a CIA operative and a FBI informant and having other people posing as you. There is no doubt in my mind though that Oswald and Ruby knew each other.

Re: Jack Ruby And The Shooting of Lee Oswald

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 5:23 pm
by kenmurray
Bob, I agree Oswald and Ruby knew each other. Wasn't Ruby's apartment less than a mile away from Oswald's roominghouse?

Re: Jack Ruby And The Shooting of Lee Oswald

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 5:26 pm
by kenmurray
Here's a clip from "Evidence Of Revision". Notice Will Fritz's slow reaction when Oswald is shot: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jID0ddsfRKI

Re: Jack Ruby And The Shooting of Lee Oswald

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 6:54 pm
by ChristophMessner
Also notice that Ruby is not shooting Oswald in a deadly way. They cured him to death in the Parkland hospital then ...

Re: Jack Ruby And The Shooting of Lee Oswald

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 8:54 pm
by ThomZajac
ChristophMessner wrote:Also notice that Ruby is not shooting Oswald in a deadly way. They cured him to death in the Parkland hospital then ...I'll have to check, but I think Oswald was butchered BEFORE his arrival at Parkland. If I remember correctly, Oswald was taken to a room before being loaded into the ambulance. All foggy though.

Re: Jack Ruby And The Shooting of Lee Oswald

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:03 pm
by Bob
All sorts of rumors about how Oswald "died". Very apropos for this whole conspiracy.

Re: Jack Ruby And The Shooting of Lee Oswald

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 6:30 pm
by tom jeffers
whoever was in the ambulance, made sure his wound was going to kill him. they wouldn't go through that for nothing. isn't it amazing how this was the first assassination in the tv age that was covered on camera beginning to end? they wanted oswald killed on camera to quiet the conspiracy talk and also eliminate the government from suspiscion of any wrong doing. what would have happened if he "hung himself" instead? this way it was all on camera done by a strip joint operator. case closed!

Re: Jack Ruby And The Shooting of Lee Oswald

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 6:46 pm
by kenmurray
Plus the fact Will Fritz's reaction to Oswald being shot. Does he look shock by it? No!!!! I think he knew what was coming down.

Re: Jack Ruby And The Shooting of Lee Oswald

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 6:50 pm
by ThomZajac
tom jeffers wrote:whoever was in the ambulance, made sure his wound was going to kill him. they wouldn't go through that for nothing. isn't it amazing how this was the first assassination in the tv age that was covered on camera beginning to end? they wanted oswald killed on camera to quiet the conspiracy talk and also eliminate the government from suspicion of any wrong doing. what would have happened if he "hung himself" instead? this way it was all on camera done by a strip joint operator. case closed!I think in the original "The Men Who Killed Kennedy" from many years ago, one of the guys in the ambulance was interviewed, and he said that sometime before arriving at Parkland Oswald stopped moaning and appeared to be dead. I haven't had a chance to look for it yet, but I remember someone saying that the treatment of Oswald after the shooting was the worst thing they could have done for an abdominal wound; something along the lines of mouth to mouth resuscitation, and that this was done in a room in the basement before loading onto the ambulance and that they waited an extraordinary length of time before doing that. Maybe I can find that.On another note, I don't think the conspirators were all too happy about having to kill Oswald in such fashion- better that he be killed shortly after the assassination trying to flee. Using Ruby with obvious mob contacts and a lame motive were aspects of the Oswald murder they had to accept, but having him killed on national TV looked really really bad for Dallas and American justice, and could reasonably have sparked national outrage and heightened suspicion. Obviously, they had chosen Ruby to do it, and they figured he would stay silent, but they were very wrong about that and eventually had to kill him too.