JFK RFK MLK Assassination Forum

Here's the link.http://davesjfk.com/mosaic.htmlHere's my analysis of it. What is interesting about Dave Perry's essay is that he offers NO analysis of the James Files information at all. None. Zero. He attacks Joe West's credibility, as if that refutes the Files story. His basic argument is that, according to him, investigator West was duped in the past and has a "checkered" past. That does not refute the Files story at all. It's an attack on Joe West. The Files information also didn't start with the finding of the Rademacher shells. The Files story started when FBI agent Shelton came to West. Regarding the Remington Fireball, the early prototypes WERE chambered in .222, so Perry's wrong...again. I'm seeing a pattern here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remington_XP-100Also regarding the two shell casings found, why does Files insist that he only shot once when two shells were found? Regarding Wim Dankbaar wanting people to assume that Files is guilty beyond reasonable doubt, that's a false statement. Wim just presents Files story and the evidence that supports it, which includes Witness statements. I find it odd that Dave Perry leaves out the evidence SUPPORTING the Files story, even if it's just to refute it. Files version of events regarding Nicoletti and Roselli being there is corroborated by Holt and Tosh Plumlee. Tosh Plumlee is a CIA pilot who testified at the Iran-Contra hearings, and he said that he flew Roselli to Dallas that day. Holt and Files, and I believe Tosh Plumlee too, as well as Marita Lorenz, all claim that certain anti-Castro operatives were in Dallas that day. There is photographic and video evidence that seem to corroborate Files being there as well. The House Select Committee on Assassinations also placed a shot right in the position that Files said he was. Then Dave Perry asks why wouldn't Wim Dankbaar disassociate himself from West since, according to Perry, West had a checkered past. Whether West has the checkered past is Dave Perry's opinion, and even if West DID have a checkered past, it doesn't refute the Files story. Then, Dave Perry says that Wim DankBaar can't disassociate himself from West because he would have to admit that the evidence was compiled by West. LOL Is that such a bad thing? He's assuming or just stating that West has a "checkered" past. This essay looks like a weak attempt to attack Wim Dankbaar and the Files information without addressing any parts of the story.Maybe Perry should actually try and refute the Files story by actually addressing the facts.

Good post, Pasquale. Mine is a limited response..Your wrote (in part)"Files version of events regarding Nicoletti and Roselli being there is corroborated by Holt and Tosh Plumlee. Tosh Plumlee is a CIA pilot who testified at the Iran-Contra hearings, and he said that he flew Roselli to Dallas that day. Holt and Files, and I believe Tosh Plumlee too, as well as Marita Lorenz, all claim that certain anti-Castro operatives were in Dallas that day. There is photographic and video evidence that seem to corroborate Files being there as well. The House Select Committee on Assassinations also placed a shot right in the position that Files said he was."My view is that is possible that James Files fired from where he said he did, but we will never be able to know this beyond a reasonable doubt. But I do think that it can proven beyond a reasonable doubt that JFK was killed by a shot fired from in front of him, and that this fact was deliberately covered up by the United States government. Whether Files fired the fatal shot or not, there can be little doubt that the CIA (including Mafia elements), and the Secret Service played key roles in Dealey Plaza.But as to Files, he has changed a few details (how much he was paid), and admitted that he lied about others (being alone) in order not to give up others. Any witness that lies sometimes -for whatever reason- is compromised. Personally, I believe Files was in Dallas that day and was aware of plans to assassinate JFK, and that he had some kind of role. Maybe his role was exactly as he has (last) described it. Could be. But he still could be protecting another or others. For example, he could have been the spotter for the actual shooter who is still alive- who knows? But ultimately for me it doesn't matter all that much.

Pasquale DiFabrizio wrote:Here's the link.http://davesjfk.com/mosaic.htmlHere's my analysis of it. What is interesting about Dave Perry's essay is that he offers NO analysis of the James Files information at all. None. Zero. He attacks Joe West's credibility, as if that refutes the Files story. His basic argument is that, according to him, investigator West was duped in the past and has a "checkered" past. That does not refute the Files story at all. It's an attack on Joe West. The Files information also didn't start with the finding of the Rademacher shells. The Files story started when FBI agent Shelton came to West. Regarding the Remington Fireball, the early prototypes WERE chambered in .222, so Perry's wrong...again. I'm seeing a pattern here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remington_XP-100Also regarding the two shell casings found, why does Files insist that he only shot once when two shells were found? Regarding Wim Dankbaar wanting people to assume that Files is guilty beyond reasonable doubt, that's a false statement. Wim just presents Files story and the evidence that supports it, which includes Witness statements. I find it odd that Dave Perry leaves out the evidence SUPPORTING the Files story, even if it's just to refute it. Files version of events regarding Nicoletti and Roselli being there is corroborated by Holt and Tosh Plumlee. Tosh Plumlee is a CIA pilot who testified at the Iran-Contra hearings, and he said that he flew Roselli to Dallas that day. Holt and Files, and I believe Tosh Plumlee too, as well as Marita Lorenz, all claim that certain anti-Castro operatives were in Dallas that day. There is photographic and video evidence that seem to corroborate Files being there as well. The House Select Committee on Assassinations also placed a shot right in the position that Files said he was. Then Dave Perry asks why wouldn't Wim Dankbaar disassociate himself from West since, according to Perry, West had a checkered past. Whether West has the checkered past is Dave Perry's opinion, and even if West DID have a checkered past, it doesn't refute the Files story. Then, Dave Perry says that Wim DankBaar can't disassociate himself from West because he would have to admit that the evidence was compiled by West. LOL Is that such a bad thing? He's assuming or just stating that West has a "checkered" past. This essay looks like a weak attempt to attack Wim Dankbaar and the Files information without addressing any parts of the story.Maybe Perry should actually try and refute the Files story by actually addressing the facts.Great analysis Pasquale. I doubt one Dave Perry knows the difference between an elephant gun and a BB gun. Look at who Dave Perry's "other" job is. Check the bottom of the page:http://www.geocities.com/hugh112263/about_hugh.html

kenmurray wrote:Pasquale DiFabrizio wrote:Here's the link.http://davesjfk.com/mosaic.htmlHere's my analysis of it. What is interesting about Dave Perry's essay is that he offers NO analysis of the James Files information at all. None. Zero. He attacks Joe West's credibility, as if that refutes the Files story. His basic argument is that, according to him, investigator West was duped in the past and has a "checkered" past. That does not refute the Files story at all. It's an attack on Joe West. The Files information also didn't start with the finding of the Rademacher shells. The Files story started when FBI agent Shelton came to West. Regarding the Remington Fireball, the early prototypes WERE chambered in .222, so Perry's wrong...again. I'm seeing a pattern here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remington_XP-100Also regarding the two shell casings found, why does Files insist that he only shot once when two shells were found? Regarding Wim Dankbaar wanting people to assume that Files is guilty beyond reasonable doubt, that's a false statement. Wim just presents Files story and the evidence that supports it, which includes Witness statements. I find it odd that Dave Perry leaves out the evidence SUPPORTING the Files story, even if it's just to refute it. Files version of events regarding Nicoletti and Roselli being there is corroborated by Holt and Tosh Plumlee. Tosh Plumlee is a CIA pilot who testified at the Iran-Contra hearings, and he said that he flew Roselli to Dallas that day. Holt and Files, and I believe Tosh Plumlee too, as well as Marita Lorenz, all claim that certain anti-Castro operatives were in Dallas that day. There is photographic and video evidence that seem to corroborate Files being there as well. The House Select Committee on Assassinations also placed a shot right in the position that Files said he was. Then Dave Perry asks why wouldn't Wim Dankbaar disassociate himself from West since, according to Perry, West had a checkered past. Whether West has the checkered past is Dave Perry's opinion, and even if West DID have a checkered past, it doesn't refute the Files story. Then, Dave Perry says that Wim DankBaar can't disassociate himself from West because he would have to admit that the evidence was compiled by West. LOL Is that such a bad thing? He's assuming or just stating that West has a "checkered" past. This essay looks like a weak attempt to attack Wim Dankbaar and the Files information without addressing any parts of the story.Maybe Perry should actually try and refute the Files story by actually addressing the facts.Great analysis Pasquale. I doubt one Dave Perry knows the difference between an elephant gun and a BB gun. Look at who Dave Perry's "other" job is. Check the bottom of the page:http://www.geocities.com/hugh112263/abo ... htmlIndeed. LOL

Pasquale DiFabrizio wrote: I find it odd that Dave Perry leaves out the evidence SUPPORTING the Files story, even if it's just to refute it. That's the decisive point. Great engagement Pasquale and on the jfkassassinationforum as well! I'm sure Paul, Bill, John B., von Pein and all the LNT advocators there did not even read Wim's book "Files on JFK"!

ThomZajac wrote:Good post, Pasquale. Mine is a limited response..Your wrote (in part)"Files version of events regarding Nicoletti and Roselli being there is corroborated by Holt and Tosh Plumlee. Tosh Plumlee is a CIA pilot who testified at the Iran-Contra hearings, and he said that he flew Roselli to Dallas that day. Holt and Files, and I believe Tosh Plumlee too, as well as Marita Lorenz, all claim that certain anti-Castro operatives were in Dallas that day. There is photographic and video evidence that seem to corroborate Files being there as well. The House Select Committee on Assassinations also placed a shot right in the position that Files said he was."My view is that is possible that James Files fired from where he said he did, but we will never be able to know this beyond a reasonable doubt. But I do think that it can proven beyond a reasonable doubt that JFK was killed by a shot fired from in front of him, and that this fact was deliberately covered up by the United States government. Whether Files fired the fatal shot or not, there can be little doubt that the CIA (including Mafia elements), and the Secret Service played key roles in Dealey Plaza.But as to Files, he has changed a few details (how much he was paid), and admitted that he lied about others (being alone) in order not to give up others. Any witness that lies sometimes -for whatever reason- is compromised. Personally, I believe Files was in Dallas that day and was aware of plans to assassinate JFK, and that he had some kind of role. Maybe his role was exactly as he has (last) described it. Could be. But he still could be protecting another or others. For example, he could have been the spotter for the actual shooter who is still alive- who knows? But ultimately for me it doesn't matter all that much.Very good points. What I love about this forum, and always have, is that we don't start calling each other names just because we don't happen to agree on things. Anyway, very good points, Thom.

ChristophMessner wrote:Pasquale DiFabrizio wrote: I find it odd that Dave Perry leaves out the evidence SUPPORTING the Files story, even if it's just to refute it. That's the decisive point. Great engagement Pasquale and on the jfkassassinationforum as well! I'm sure Paul, Bill, John B., von Pein and all the LNT advocators there did not even read Wim's book "Files on JFK"!It could be. Either they are not familiar with the information, or they have read the information and are purposely misrepresenting it.