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The prelude to the assassination

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 2:58 pm
by Bob
Why did the events of 11/22/1963 happen? We have given many reasons, among them being the changes JFK was trying to make that would adversely affect the CIA, the Federal Reserve, big oil and the Military Industrial Complex. Also, RFK was going after the mob with zeal. The CIA and the MIC desperately wanted Cuba AND Vietnam. But JFK was burned by the events of the Bay of Pigs that was planned by Allen Dulles and Richard Nixon at the latter stages of the Eisenhower administration. JFK would never again trust Dulles or the CIA. JFK was also going to get out of Nam. There were only 16,000 trops and advisors in Vietnam at the time of JFK's death. JFK wanted ALL troops out by 1965. But after his murder, LBJ completely changed the course of action over in Nam, and the U.S. had over 500,000 troops in Vietnam by 1965, instead of being out completely. That led to a war that would cost over 58,000 lives for the U.S. and countless hundreds of thousands of Vietnamese. But Cuba was the foreign policy issue that probably was the straw the broke the camel's back, in terms of the venom that was pointed at JFK by the CIA, the MIC and the joint chiefs.If you haven't seen Thirteen Days, I would suggest you see it.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSA7Evcy ... elatedThat movie will show you how much JFK and his advisors were being pushed to the brink by the joint chiefs to invade Cuba in October of 1962, which would have led to a nuclear exchange and the start of WWIII. Luckily, JFK saw through what the joint chiefs were trying to do. Just like he did in March of 1962, when General Lemnitzer gave him the plans to Operation Northwoods.http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICL ... s.htmlThat plan was approved by ALL the joint chiefs, as well as Allen Dulles.So there were many reasons why certain people wanted JFK dead, but one of the very biggest may have come morphed out of the Bay of Pigs, the refusal to carry through with the Operation Northwoods plan and JFK's actions during the Cuban Missile Crisis.

Re: The prelude to the assassination

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 3:20 pm
by kenmurray
Bob wrote:Why did the events of 11/22/1963 happen? We have given many reasons, among them being the changes JFK was trying to make that would adversely affect the CIA, the Federal Reserve, big oil and the Military Industrial Complex. Also, RFK was going after the mob with zeal. The CIA and the MIC desperately wanted Cuba AND Vietnam. But JFK was burned by the events of the Bay of Pigs that was planned by Allen Dulles and Richard Nixon at the latter stages of the Eisenhower administration. JFK would never again trust Dulles or the CIA. JFK was also going to get out of Nam. There were only 16,000 trops and advisors in Vietnam at the time of JFK's death. JFK wanted ALL troops out by 1965. But after his murder, LBJ completely changed the course of action over in Nam, and the U.S. had over 500,000 troops in Vietnam by 1965, instead of being out completely. That led to a war that would cost over 58,000 lives for the U.S. and countless hundreds of thousands of Vietnamese. But Cuba was the foreign policy issue that probably was the straw the broke the camel's back, in terms of the venom that was pointed at JFK by the CIA, the MIC and the joint chiefs.If you haven't seen Thirteen Days, I would suggest you see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSA7Evcy ... elatedThat movie will show you how much JFK and his advisors were being pushed to the brink by the joint chiefs to invade Cuba in October of 1962, which would have led to a nuclear exchange and the start of WWIII. Luckily, JFK saw through what the joint chiefs were trying to do. Just like he did in March of 1962, when General Lemnitzer gave him the plans to Operation Northwoods.http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICL ... s.htmlThat plan was approved by ALL the joint chiefs, as well as Allen Dulles.So there were many reasons why certain people wanted JFK dead, but one of the very biggest may have come morphed out of the Bay of Pigs, the refusal to carry through with the Operation Northwoods plan and JFK's actions during the Cuban Missile Crisis.Bob, I haven't seen it yet but want to. In your opinion does the movie give an accurate account of those 13 days?

Re: The prelude to the assassination

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 3:25 pm
by Bob
Based on everything I've read and studied, I would say yes. When I first saw the movie, I didn't even know about Operation Northwoods. Now that I know of that plan, the actions of the joint chiefs during the Cuban Missile Crisis becomes even more clear.

Re: The prelude to the assassination

Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 7:45 pm
by Bruce Patrick Brychek
08.25.2013Dear JFK Murder Solved Forum Members and Readers:12.09.2009 - Mr. Bob Fox Posted this extremely intelligent Headline thatnever received the analysis, attention, and follow-up that it deserved.My opinion.The facts and points raised by Bob are crucial to the Analysis of Why JFKwas assassinated.The facts and points raised by Bob are crucial to the Analysis of Why thereis so much cover-up and misdirection today about the Real Reasons JFK wasassassinated.Does anybody have any more recent analyses, investigations, readings, research,study, and writings that are germane to this discussion ?Comments ?Respectfully,BB.

THE PRELUDE TO THE JFK ASSASSINATION:

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 6:52 pm
by Bruce Patrick Brychek
03.27.2015Dear JFK Murder Solved Forum Members and Readers:12.09.2009 - Bob Fox Posted this very important Headline that is TimelessIn Its Focus And Value. My Opinion.Ken Murray and myself Posted some follow-up. But no serious discussion followed.This Subject Matter is extremely powerful, and necessary to the JFK, MLK,and RFK Assassinations. "THEY WERE REMOVALS FROM THE BOARD." Nothingmore. Nothing less. My Opinion.Today some JFK Researchers get overly consumed with the quagmires ofhow many guns, how many shooters, how many spotters, how many hits,how many misses, this film or photo, et cetera. All good for conversationin My Opinion 51 years later, but to any other end ?At This Point In Time what would even be accepted as Evidence in a Court Of Lawif any type of Law Suit was ever filed ? Who would prosecute it ? Who wants it ?It is 51+ years later since the JFK Assassination. What is really solved ? Whatis really provable ? What, if anything, could be proved in a Court of Law today ?Why does Main Stream Media and the Kennedy Family avoid this Subject Matter ?Then there are the discussions of the Secret JFK Files and Records. 51+ years later ?Seriously, now.If there had been anything of serious value, and I said IF, would it still be there ?Would it ever be released in Pristine Condition ?Stop and think for a minute, please.On 11.22.1963 there were No Cell Phones. No Lap Tops. No Emails. No Fax Machines.Think along with me in the Reality of 1963.Bob, Bruce, and Ken decide to "remove Joe" in 1963.Do we save notes, or make notes ? Outlines ? Call from pay phones ? Call from our housephones ?Bob, did you use your .30-06 when you "did" Joe ? I'm going up to the Cabin to do some hunting,and wanted to borrow it if you still have it.Ken, did you use your Mauser when you "did" Joe ? I'm going on a Hunting Trip to Canada and wanted to take it with me if you still have it.And in 2015 while talking and writing we state yeah, guys, remember when we removed Joeback in 1963 ? Come On People.While I still review and skim as much as I can, 51+ years later, I think that the JFKResearchers need to Think Outside Of The Box. Expand your thinking. Expand yourhorizons.Why was JFK, MLK, and RFK killed ?THERE IS A PATTERN HERE PEOPLE. That alone provides major clues, facts, and information. My Opinion.Who benefitted ? Then ? Now ?Who had The Power to accomplish it ?Who had/has The Power to Continue The Cover-Up 51+ Years Later ?Why is it covered-up 51+ years later ?THE TRUTH WILL NOT SET US FREE APPARENTLY.Why does nobody living today in The Kennedy Family want anything to do with"Re-Opening The JFK, MLK, And RFK Assassination Files ?"Dealey Plaza is as big as my yard. There was no place for a Firing Squad,or the multiplicity of shooters or shots claimed by "many experts."Where are all of the bullet holes ? Where were they all shooting from ?Why are none of them in pictures, on film, or recordings anywhere ?If there are more shooters and shots, this had to be the greatest collection of lousyshooters ever assembled - anywhere - anytime, let alone to Assassinate a President of the U.S. in broad daylight.If there had been more than 1 - 2 shooters, Jackie, JFK, Connelly, others, andthe Limo would have looked like Swiss Cheese. Jackie would have been blownto Hell.THE JFK SHOOTING WAS SURGICAL IN ITS PRECISION OVERALL.THIS WAS NOT A BONNIE AND CLYDE STYLE MASSACRE.The Removal of JFK was a Cookie Cutter Event. Perfectly executed.The Removal of MLK was a Cookie Cutter Event. Perfectly executed.The Removal of RFK was a Cookie Cutter Event. Perfectly executed.Some things were different, but remarkably well staged, and totally successful3 out of 3 times.Actually, killing is relatively easy. Anybody can be killed. Remember that I statedthat as you think through this exercise.THE COVER-UP IS THE HARD PART. That is the true indication of the professionalism and sophistication of The Planners.My Opinion.JFK, MLK, and RFK are STILL DEAD.KILLING FOR REMOVAL IS THE BEST WAY TO WIN. PERIODSome are still arguing about why Cain killed Abel.Some are still arguing about why Jesus Christ was killed.A New Book with a New Theory On The Assassination Of Abraham Lincoln iscoming out soon. Not soon enough for some I suspect.While I enjoy the Hobby of the JFK, MLK, and RFK Assassinations, it is nowat the level of collecting Baseball Cards or Comic Books. And, unfortunately,viewed with much greater disdain by the Masses.The JFK Research Community deserves some of the characterizations and reputationsit carries with it. Why ? Why do they do it to themselves ?How can we accomplish more going forward ?How can we improve it going forward ?Any additional analyses, interviews, investigations, readings, research, studies,thoughts, or writings on any aspect of this Subject Matter ?Bear in mind that we are trying to attract and educate a Whole New GenerationJFK Researchers who may not be as well versed as you.I am trying to stir meaningful debate and discussion going forward.After I shower and shave, I look at myself in the mirror everyday as I comb my hair, as I suspect most people do before going out in the public.I think that the JFK, MLK, and RFK Researchers and Writers, and Research Communityneed to do the same IF they are serious about accomplishing anything with theseSubject Matters.Comments ?Respectfully,BB.

Re: The prelude to the assassination

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 8:53 pm
by kenmurray
30 years prelude to JFK's murder:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTdx6vEUtIA