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Pancake house, interesting email

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 7:43 pm
by dankbaar
James Files and Dallas/Fort Worth James Files and Dallas/Fort Worth Greetings:My name is David. I have lived in the Dallas area most of my life; I was born in 1954, and was nine when JFK was assassinated.As a youth, like most Americans, I just accepted that Lee Harvey Oswald was the assassin. Then around 1988 I started looking into the event more closely. I started reading many books, and got every documentary I could, and even before I saw Oliver Stone's "JFK" I knew that the Warren Report was full of crap.The video on James Files, which I got around ten years ago, really got my attention. At first, I wasn't sure if he was telling the truth, then the second time I watched it, I was struck by something he said. He said that (as I recall) he, Johnny Rosselli and Jack Ruby met the night before the assassination at "a pancake house in Fort Worth, off of Interstate Highway 30." My jaw dropped when I heard that, as I had practically grown up in Fort Worth, frequently visiting relatives there, and was very familiar with the "Old South Pancake House" off of 30 (University and 30) as Files said. He said that they had sat at a lunch counter (like a bar where they serve alcohol).Two to three years ago, I was in Fort Worth, and ate at that restaurant. I noticed that there was no lunch counter, but my impression of the interior was that it had been remodeled since 1963. I noticed that the hostess of the restaurant was fairly old, and I wondered to myself if she had been there in 1963. On the way out, I struck up a conversation with her and found out that she had worked there starting shortly after 1963. I asked her if there had ever been a lunch counter there. She said no, but that there was a sister restaurant just down the highway then, another Old South Pancake House (at Interstate 30 and Camp Bowie Boulevard), which did have a lunch counter in 1963. That restaurant is no longer there.How did Files know about this place if he had not been here? He had too many details about a real place where they met.I have some other tangential connections to the assassination, dealing with my late father, which I'll discuss with you next time.You can email me at xxxxxxxxx, if you wish to.Yours,David

Re: Pancake house, interesting email

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 8:32 pm
by Bob
Very cool email Wim. Jimmy's story seems to get STRONGER, not weaker as time goes on, no matter what the lone nut club tries to say.

Re: Pancake house, interesting email

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 9:30 pm
by dankbaar
Actually it was no sister restaurant, it was just the old place. They moved to a new place in the sixties (I believe it was 1967). The old place had a counter with barstools. I went through the same routine with the current owners. I had a pancake there. Marvelous. Wim

Re: Pancake house, interesting email

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 7:07 am
by Phil Dragoo
http://www.olsouthpancakehouse.com/Many references to original owners Benson & Brazgold and the change over the years in various reviews online.

Re: Pancake house, interesting email

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 5:59 pm
by Bob
Phil Dragoo wrote:http://www.olsouthpancakehouse.com/Many references to original owners Benson & Brazgold and the change over the years in various reviews online.I normally don't eat a lot at breakfast, if at all. Damn if I didn't eat a LOT after seeing that menu. There's a place in northern Wisconsin called Paul Bunyan's that is legendary for eating breakfast. I was there last summer, and I felt like I needed to climb in a wheel barrow to get to the car. It's an ALL you can eat place if you dare.I don't know if you ever saw the classic movie The Great Outdoors , but it's a parody of northern Wisconsin. The restaurant scene where John Candy ate the ole 96er was based on Paul Bunyan's.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQnGddNdXkY

Re: Pancake house, interesting email

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 9:13 pm
by kenmurray
Bob wrote:Phil Dragoo wrote:http://www.olsouthpancakehouse.com/Many references to original owners Benson & Brazgold and the change over the years in various reviews online.I normally don't eat a lot at breakfast, if at all. Damn if I didn't eat a LOT after seeing that menu. There's a place in northern Wisconsin called Paul Bunyan's that is legendary for eating breakfast. I was there last summer, and I felt like I needed to climb in a wheel barrow to get to the car. It's an ALL you can eat place if you dare.I don't know if you ever saw the classic movie The Great Outdoors , but it's a parody of northern Wisconsin. The restaurant scene where John Candy ate the ole 96er was based on Paul Bunyan's.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQnGddNdXkYCool stuff there Bob. I only been to Wisconsin once.

Re: Pancake house, interesting email

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 8:34 pm
by Pennyworth
If anyone wants to wish Dallas Dan a Happy Birthday, I have provided a space.... I was going to put this under the 'PENNYWORTHLESS" thread but it has been locked...We can get together here and pretend were are at the Pancake House cyber fantasy style http://www.attention-to-details.com/new ... 2a.jpgLook.... jsnow915 has arrived.... http://blogs.nationalgeographic.com/blo ... e.jpglooks like saracarter766 showed up... http://www.caltechgirlsworld.mu.nu/arch ... 0slice.gif

Re: Pancake house, interesting email

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 9:30 pm
by Pennyworth
Pennyworth wrote:If anyone wants to wish Dallas Dan a Happy Birthday, I have provided a space.... I was going to put this under the 'PENNYWORTHLESS" thread but it has been locked...We can get together here and pretend we are at the Pancake House cyber fantasy style http://www.attention-to-details.com/new ... 2a.jpgLook.... jsnow915 has arrived.... http://blogs.nationalgeographic.com/blo ... e.jpglooks like saracarter766 showed up... http://www.caltechgirlsworld.mu.nu/arch ... ce.gifWell it looks like nobody showed up yet A card just came in.... http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_IbrZGYJ3X4Y/S ... as_boy.jpg

Re: Pancake house, interesting email

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 9:46 pm
by Pennyworth
Here's one for Dan on his birthday..... http://www.dixiesmiles.com/houston_400x400.jpg

Re: Pancake house, interesting email

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 9:49 pm
by Dealey Joe
Bob were you ever in Millwakeethere was a German restaurant there called Maders?Awesome! Someone told me it finally closed down a couple years ago.