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Shots or Shooters from the Front
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 5:41 pm
by Kirk
I pretty much accept that shots came from the grassy knoll behind the picket fence. I am pretty sure that Mr. Files was at least in that location, if not the shooter, then spotter. What I am wondering about is were there other shooters from the front in other locations, especially, since some pictures reveal at least one bullet hole in the front wind shield of the Limo, and there is speculation that the President's throat wound was intially and entrance wound. If so any ideas of who, and where?Thanks
Re: Shots or Shooters from the Front
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 7:55 pm
by Dealey Joe
kirk i recall you visited dealey?In my opinion more than one shooter there around the fence/pagola area would be hard for me to accept.It is a very small place.i can accept where Files was located he could calmly walk out of there.It was just a few feet from the fence to the brick road he walked out.Also there is a photograph showing him wakking down that street.
Re: Shots or Shooters from the Front
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:44 pm
by kenmurray
Re: Shots or Shooters from the Front
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 10:45 pm
by Kirk
Thanks Joe and Ken,True, I did to Dealey over the Holidays, and I am still thinking about, and haunted by it some. So, I gather you believe that the bullet hole in the windshield must have come from locations behind the Limo, and therefore also the throat wound might be and exit wound. When I was there I noted that the safest place to get "get away with it", would have been from the south side knoll area. Of course Tosh Plumlee would have noted that, since he said he was in that area. I think it is possible that a shot could have been made from the western end of the TSBD building as well. I wonder about the risk of framing a lone nut from behind with any shots from the front, but as Jack White has proven, almost any evidence can be altered, and believed. Still, if a frontal shot was taken and missed, and possibly hit somebody, much like Tague, but instead the behind the limo, all bets would be off. Still, I also think about that person in the back of the parked pickup some.
Re: Shots or Shooters from the Front
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 10:53 pm
by Kirk
Re: Shots or Shooters from the Front
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 11:22 pm
by kenmurray
Kirk wrote:KenOn the Johnny Brewer youtube at 1:44 or so, does he say Bush waited outside?kenmurray wrote:Witness Sam Holland on what he saw:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soqwKWDq ... tedWitness Arnold Rowland:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soqwKWDq ... tedCarolyn Walther seeing 2 different gunmen:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_ZYa_nK ... atedJohnny Brewer on Oswald's movements:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mv5vemBc ... elatedKirk, Brewer is referring to another employee of the Texas Theater, Butch Burroughs:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcpg4mNEWf4
Re: Shots or Shooters from the Front
Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 1:30 am
by Dealey Joe
I can tell you those guys all knew one another. probably very wellThey lived in a small neighborhood where everyone knew everyone else.Brewer lived about 4 blocks fron LHODoes anyone know where Tippit lived?
Re: Shots or Shooters from the Front
Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 10:13 am
by ChristophMessner
The gorgeous map of Dealey Plaza by Dan Roberdeau helps checking the possible trajectories:
http://imgcash2.imageshack.us/img160/76 ... .gifSource:
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/lofiv ... .htmlMaybe one gunshot came from the pedestrian tunnel in the triple underpass, it would have been an angle, which would have gone around the window shield directly into JFK's right temple and not exiting on the left side of his head. Problem: the railroad workers above would have heard and located that, I guess. And: the Brehm fragment follows exactly the trajectory to the James Files position.
Re: Shots or Shooters from the Front
Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 10:27 am
by andries
Garison did so mutch research, he was convinced by the indications that there were at least two teams on the grassy knol also off course based on the throath entrance wound .
Re: Shots or Shooters from the Front
Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 12:42 pm
by Kirk
Thanks Ken,I was thinking good god Bush was everywhere.Kirk, Brewer is referring to another employee of the Texas Theater, Butch Burroughs:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcpg4mNEWf4[/quote]