2 RFK assassination questions

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Bob Jonas
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Two things have always caused me some struggle when coming to terms with how the RFK assassination plot went down:1. If Sirhan Sirhan was programmed to shoot Bobby as I believe he was, then why was another shooter (presumably the "security guard" Eugene Cesar) required? This seemed extremely impractical and careless should Cesar be seen shooting and have the conspiracy exposed. Why not let Sirhan just do it all by himself since he was going to shoot anyway? You could give him the proper gun and bullets to ensure the job would be done alone instead of having a hidden accomplice.2. Why on earth would the "hidden" shooter (Cesar) be standing BEHIND Bobby when the shooting starts? He's in the direct line of fire from Sirhan's gun!!!Possibly I'm overlooking something. It seems plausible that it played out this way, but I'm having a hard time understanding the logic.
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Bob, I'll try to answer you questions as best I can based on what I know. First off, the "other Sirhan" was seen by witness Evan Freed, who signed a written affidavit. So why were the "other Sirhan" and Thane Cesar in the line of fire of the real Sirhan? I think there's a real possibility that both were also programmed. Plus, without the "other Sirhan", RFK would not have been killed. Not one of Sirhan's shots hit RFK, according to Dr. Naguchi, based on where RFK was hit and where the real Sirhan was. Naguchi said that all three wounds to RFK, including the fatal head shot came from behind and to the right of the Senator. The fatal head wound was fired from a distance of 1-3 inches away from Kennedy's head. Sirhan never got closer than 3-6 feet away from RFK and was also always in front of Kennedy. I believe, just like the scene in Dealey Plaza, RFK was not going to survive the shooting at the Ambassador Hotel, no matter what it took. They same held true with JFK in Dallas.Remember both assassinations had doubles on hand to confuse the issue for the eventual patsy who was blamed. There were numerous LHO look-alikes in Dallas. There was one who actually worked at the TSBD, Billy Lovelady.We know now that there was the real Sirhan and another person who looked just like him, according to Evan Freed.It appears that particular method was the modus operandi of the CIA, at least in the killing of the Kennedy brothers.Freed was just four feet away from RFK at the time of the shooting. Not 50 feet. I would certainly call Freed a excellent eyewitness. He saw the "other Sirhan" shoot RFK. So although your questions are valid, this is what really happened that night at the Ambassador Hotel, at least according to Freed.http://www.jfkcia.com/main/?p=55
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Here is an interesting article from RFK Junior except for the beginning where he says his Father was murdered by an Arab. http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/ ... ica-213601
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kenmurray wrote:Here is an interesting article from RFK Junior except for the beginning where he says his Father was murdered by an Arab. http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/ ... -213601RFK Jr. might be correct. We know that Evan Freed saw Sirhan and another man who looked just like him in the pantry before RFK arrived there. It was the Sirhan lookalike who was behind RFK and fatally shot him based on what Freed saw and forensic evidence proves. The other man did this while Sirhan was in front of RFK firing his gun. It's very possible the other man could have been Arab, just like Sirhan was. This is part of the affidavit Evan Freed signed talking about the RFK assassination:On the evening of the 1968 California primary, I was present at the Ambassador Hotel in a room directly adjacent to Senator Kennedy’s. We had been awaiting election results. Eventually the Senator and his staff left to go downstairs to the Embassy Room to deliver a victory speech. I accompanied the Senator on the elevator, and entered an area of the Embassy Room set aside for press photographers.During the Senator’s speech, a scuffle broke out where I was standing among several news photographers, and I was hit in the face with a large newsreel camera. My camera was also broken in the scuffle, and I decided to go to a quiet area to attempt repairs. I immediately went into the Embassy Room pantry area, arriving there about 5 minutes prior to the end of the Senator’s speech.Nothing in the pantry area seemed unusual, however, I do recall the following. Two men who looked very similar in appearance and clothing were moving about the pantry area. One man was wearing lighter clothing than the other, and he was holding a drink glass in his hand. The 2nd man was standing near the south wall of the pantry, directly across from a large metal serving table. The men never stood together, however, they appeared to be looking at each other from time-to-time. I did not pay particular attention to the 2nd man, although I do recall thinking that he was the other man’s brother. I assumed that they were in the pantry to avoid the large crowd in the Embassy Room.At one point, the man with the drink asked me how long the Senator’s speech would last, and I told him I did not know. He also asked hotel kitchen employees in the pantry where he could get some ice for his drink, and they directed him to an ice machine next to the door leading into the Embassy Room. The man with the drink was Sirhan Sirhan.When the Senator entered the pantry, he was followed by a crowd of reporters and guests. I was standing at the entrance to the pantry, and walked along the Senator’s right side until he paused near the metal serving table inside the pantry. There appeared to be some confusion at that time with some persons telling the Senator to go back up the freight elevator, and others telling him to go into an adjacent room (I believe the California Room) where the press were waiting. I assumed he would go to meet the press, and I took a few steps in front of him. I was facing the Senator’s right side at that time, about 4 feet away. It was at this time that shooting began.I saw the 2nd man (wearing the darker clothing) who had been in the pantry with Sirhan during the speech pointing a gun in an upward angle at the Senator. Based on the sound I heard, I believe the first shot came from this man’s gun. In the background, about 6-8 feet from me, I could see Sirhan firing a revolver held in his right hand in the direction of the Senator. People in the crowd were screaming and grabbing Sirhan, and I remember they were holding his arm as he was shooting. I cannot say how many shots were fired by Sirhan or by the second gunman.As the crowd rushed towards Sirhan, they passed by the 2nd gunman. He was backing away, towards the east end of the pantry. I was shoved by the surge of the crowd back against the south wall of the pantry, where I was alone next to another door that exited into the Embassy Room.At that time, I observed the 2nd gunman running in my direction. He was not holding a gun at that time. Another man was running behind him in the same direction yelling at me, “Stop that guy, stop him.” There was no one else other than the 2nd gunman that he could have been yelling at. This took place just as I was opening the door to the Embassy Room to get some help.As the 2nd gunman came to the door, the man pursuing him yelled to me again, “Get him, get it!” As the 2nd gunman passed through the door, the man pursuing him tried to grab him but failed. Both men ran into the Embassy Room. The 2nd gunman ran directly out the east doors of the Embassy Room. The man running after him almost fell as he came through the pantry doors, and he continued running in the same direction as the second gunman. I never saw either of these men again.
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