THE VAST MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX WILL LIE:
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2026 8:22 pm
Wednesday
04.01.2026
3:22 p.m.,
Chicago, Illinois time:
Dear Global Forum members and Readers:
04.27.2007 - Nearly 20 years ago I Originally Posted this Powerful Headline and Supporting Material
entitled "the vast military industrial complex will lie ..."
Some of our most brilliant members eloquently joined the discussion.
04.01.2026 - The U.S. and Israel are in an Undeclared War with Iran that the U.S. began with a
Preemptive Strike, just like the Japanese did to us at Pearl Harbor in the minds of many around
the world.
Have we improved ?
thoughts...
best...
bb.
"the vast military industrial complex will lie ..."
Post by Bruce Patrick Brychek » Fri Apr 27, 2007 3:20 pm
Dear Global Forum Members and Readers:
"...the vast military industrial complex will lie to you when it serves its purpose and seems to have as
much respect for educated, right-thinking Americans - indeed, for its own educated, right-thinking
soldiers - as a wolf pack does for its lambs."
Who could have written this strong language ?
Surely must be a conspiracy theorist of some sort ?
A JFK Forum conspiracy theorist ?
Maybe a Martin Luther King, Jr. conspiracy theorist ?
Probably a Robert F. Kennedy Conspiracy theorist, then ?
Or somebody who doesn't believe the U.S. Government story line about the Oklahoma bombing,
and Timothy McVey ?
And if not the above, then certainly some nut job who espouses Operation Northwoods, and
09.11.2001 conspiracy theories ?
Which ever, must be somebody that belongs to one of these nut job conspiracy theories because
our government and military would never cover-up anything, and even less likely that they would
do it together, right ?
Especially if President George W. Bush has his name in the mix ?
Right ?
Wrong !
Read today's Chicago Sun Times, Friday, April 27, 2007, page 135.
Not the Current Affairs section, not the government section, but the Sports Section.
Sun Times Columnist Rick Telander, who I enjoy reading by the way, writes about the cover-ups by the
U.S. Military Industrial Complex and the U.S. Government in the following two (2) cases:
1. Former NFL Star Pat Tilman's death, and cover-up.
2. The Jessica Lynch fraud scheme.
And while we are at it, four (4) years ago this week, President George W. Bush declared U.S.
Military Victory in Iraq.
Now, if events as recent as this are covered-up, and manipulated, and down right lied about, who
of us can ever expect any real complete truth from the U.S. Government, the U.S. Military Industrial
Complex, the CIA, the FBI, or any of the other alphabet groups running around lying at the behest
of our "leaders, and those in positions of power ?"
Let's send Rick Telander an application for Membership, and maybe leadership in our "Conspiracy
Nut - Conspiracy Theory Committees."
As always, I strongly recommend that you first read, research, and study material completely
yourself about a Subject Matter, and then formulate your own Opinions and Theories.
Any additional analyses, interviews, investigations, readings, research, studies, thoughts, or
writings on any aspect of this Subject Matter ?
Bear in mind that we are trying to attract and educate a Whole New Generation of JFK Researchers
who may not be as well versed as you.
thoughts...
best...
bb.
Iraq War To Take At Least Two More Years To Win ?????
Post by Bruce Patrick Brychek » Wed Jul 25, 2007 10:31 am
Dear Global Forum Members and Readers:
It was announced yesterday the the U.S. Military leaders in Iraq stated that we will need at least
two (2) more years to win the War in Iraq ? I recall President Bush declaring Victory in Iraq four
(4)years ago.
The Iraq War is now clearly longer than World War II.
As always, I strongly recommend that you first read, research, and study material completely
yourself about a Subject Matter, and then formulate your own Opinions and Theories.
Any additional analyses, interviews, investigations, readings, research, studies, thoughts, or
writings on any aspect of this Subject Matter ?
Bear in mind that we are trying to attract and educate a Whole New Generation of JFK Researchers
who may not be as well versed as you.
thoughts...
best...
bb.
Post by R Croxford » Wed Jul 25, 2007 4:14 pm
You know Eisenhower actually called it " The military idustrialized congress?" Changed it at last minute
not to piss anyone off.
I am telling you he told Kennedy the truth about the CFR which he was a member of and Kennedy was
going to shut em down.
Please for god's sake look at the history of the Council and read everything you can and see the truth.
Everything you are mentioning here is directly related to them alone. I am working on a few pages to
try and explain it with no BS. http://rcroxford.spaces.live.com/
Demand the truth from congress about the CFR! They cannot govern the halls of our government any longer.
I will say it again so everyone understands.
If every person in our government was a former member of the KKK? Wouldn't you be able to say that THERE
IS AN AGENDA!
There is an agenda and it is to rule the world. There is no difference in what Hitler did and what WE are doing
right now. NONE!
Ok I am done.
Peace
Reply to Bruce Brychek
Post by Brian White » Sat Jul 28, 2007 1:42 pm
Mr. Brychek- Has anyone ever explained how they are going to define victory in Iraq ? Or Afghanistan ? - when we're
not even fighting a clearly defined entity ? Is Osama bin Laden going to sign a surrender document on behalf of all
terrorists? Will we have V-T Day ?
Seriously- Alex Jones was talking about Pat Tillman's death. It looks like he was "triple-tapped" through the forehead
by an M4 weapon at close range- they fire a 3 round burst with one trigger pull. Very suspicious. He was planning on
coming home and becoming an anti-war activist.
On the subject of the military-industrial complex, I'd like to humbly recommend to all forum members (if you haven't
read it already), Richard E. Sprague's 1977 book "The Taking of America 1-2-3". He talks about a "Power Control Group"
that has been behind the scenes, manipulating events in this country at least since the U-2 incident in 1960. Some of it
is dated (the afterword is from 1985), and you won't agree with his account of the JFK assassination, but it's fascinating
reading. He has some interesting theories about Chappaquiddick and the George Wallace shooting as well. The entire book
is at www.ratical.org. My apologies if it has already been discussed here (I haven't read everything yet!) Also my apologies f
or not linking directly to it, but...I don't know how!
Addendum
Post by Brian White » Sun Jul 29, 2007 12:36 pm
OK, it linked automatically - learn something new every day, huh? Google search for the book by title when you
get there. Again, HIGHLY recommended!
Re: "the vast military industrial complex will lie ..."
Post by ChristophMessner » Mon Dec 14, 2009 4:03 am
The final crusade in the Middle East is nothing else than colonialism. Many structures and social habits in these Islam
coined states are backward and barbaric, like when women have no rights to defend themselves from violations and
suppressions. But the big question is, whether the western way of secular life under the rule of "enlightened rationalism"
(rule by the bankers and exploiters?) is less barbaric, cause in the envisioned World State women and men might not have
the right to defend themselves from violations and suppressions. It's advisable to stay out of the spiral of force and counter-
force and read good philosophy instead.
Re: "the vast military industrial complex will lie ..."
Post by Bob Fox » Tue Dec 15, 2009 7:57 am
Bruce take a look at this great article by Webster Tarpley, the man who also helped write this great book... George Bush:
The Unauthorized Biography Obama Declares War On Pakistan December 14th, 2009 Webster G. TarpleyObama's West Point
speech of December 1 represents far more than the obvious brutal escalation in Afghanistan -- it is nothing less than a
declaration of all-out war by the United States against Pakistan. This is a brand-new war, a much wider war now targeting
Pakistan, a country of 160 million people armed with nuclear weapons. In the process, Afghanistan is scheduled
to be broken up. This is no longer the Bush Cheney Afghan war we have known in the past. This is something immensely
bigger: the attempt to destroy the Pakistani central government in Islamabad and to sink that country into a chaos of civil
war, Balkanization, subdivision and general mayhem. The chosen strategy is to massively export the Afghan civil war into
Pakistan and beyond, fracturing Pakistan along ethnic lines. It is an oblique war using fourth-generation or guerrilla warfare
techniques to assail a country which the United States and its associates in aggression are far too weak to attack directly.
In this war, the Taliban are employed as US proxies. This aggression against Pakistan is Obama's attempt to wage the Great
Game against the hub of Central Asia and Eurasia or more generally.US DETERRED FROM OPEN WAR BY PAKISTAN 'S NUKES
The ongoing civil war in Afghanistan is merely a pretext, a cover story designed to provide the United States with a
springboard for a geopolitical destabilization campaign in the entire region which cannot be publicly avowed. In the blunt
cynical world of imperialist aggression à la Bush and Cheney, a pretext might have been manufactured to attack Pakistan
directly. But Pakistan is far too large and the United States is far too weak and too bankrupt for such an undertaking. In
addition, Pakistan is a nuclear power, possessing atomic bombs and medium range missiles needed to deliver them. What
we are seeing is a novel case of nuclear deterrence in action. The US cannot send an invasion fleet or set up airbases nearby
because Pakistani nuclear weapons might destroy them. To this extent, the efforts of Ali Bhutto and A.Q. Khan to provide
Pakistan a deterrent capability have been vindicated. But the US answer is to find ways to attack Pakistan below the nuclear
threshold, and even below the conventional threshold. This is where the tactic of exporting the Afghan civil war to Pakistan
comes in. The architect of the new Pakistani civil war is US Special Forces General Stanley McChrystal, who organized the
infamous network of US torture chambers in Iraq . McChrystal's specific credential for the Pakistani civil war is his role in
unleashing the Iraqi civil war of Sunnis versus Shiites by creating "al Qaeda in Iraq " under the infamous and now departed
double agent Zarkawi. If Iraqi society as a whole had lined up against the US invaders, the occupiers would have soon been
driven out. The counter-gang known as "Al Qaeda in Iraq " avoided that possibility by killing Shiites, and thus calling forth
massive retaliation in the form of a civil war. These tactics are drawn from the work of British General Frank Kitson, who
wrote about them in his book Low Intensity Warfare. If the United States possesses a modern analog to Heinrich Himmler
of the SS, it is surely General McChrystal, Obama's hand-picked choice. McChrystal's superior, Gen Petraeus, wants to be
the new Field Marshal von Hindenburg in other words, he wants to be the next US president. The vulnerability of Pakistan
which the US and its NATO associates are seeking to exploit can best be understood using a map of the prevalent ethnic
groups of Afghanistan , Pakistan , Iran , and India . Most maps show only political borders which date back to the time of
British imperialism, and therefore fail to reflect the principal ethnic groups of the region. For the purposes of this analysis,
we must start by recognizing a number of groups. First is the Pashtun people, located mainly in Afghanistan and Pakistan .
Then we have the Baluchis, located primarily in Pakistan and Iran . The Punjabis inhabit Pakistan , as do the Sindhis. The
Bhutto family came from Sind . PASHTUNISTAN The US and NATO strategy begins with the Pashtuns, the ethnic group from
which the so-called Taliban are largely drawn. The Pashtuns represent a substantial portion of the population of Afghanistan ,
but here they are alienated from the central government under President Karzai in Kabul , even though the US puppet Karzai
passes for a Pashtun himself. The issue involves the Afghan National Army, which was created by the United States after the
2001 invasion. The Afghan officer corps are largely Tajiks drawn from the Northern Alliance that allied with the United States
against the Pashtun Talibans. The Tajiks speak Dari, sometimes known as eastern Persian. Other Afghan officers come from the
Hazara people. The important thing is that the Pashtuns feel shut out. The US strategy can best be understood as a deliberate
effort at persecuting, harassing, antagonizing, strafing, repressing, and murdering the Pashtuns. The additional 40,000 US and
NATO forces which Obama demands for Afghanistan will concentrate in Helmand province and other areas where the Pashtuns
are in the majority. The net effect will be to increase the rebellion of the fiercely independent Pashtuns against Kabul and the
foreign occupation, and at the same time to push many of these newly radicalized mujaheddin fighters across the border into
Pakistan , where they can wage war against the central government in Islamabad . US aid will flow directly to war lords and drug
lords, increasing the centrifugal tendencies. On the Pakistani side, the Pashtuns are also alienated from the central government.
Islamabad and the army are seen by them as too much the creatures of the Punjabis, with some input from the Sindhis. On the
Pakistani side of the Pashtun territory, US operations include wholesale assassinations from unmanned aerial vehicles or drones,
murders by CIA and reportedly Blackwater snipers, plus blind terrorist massacres like the recent ones in Peshawar which the Pakistani
Taliban are blaming on Blackwater, acting as a subcontractor of the CIA. These actions are intolerable and humiliating for a proud
sovereign state. Every time the Pashtuns are clobbered, they blame the Punjabis in Islamabad for the dirty deals with the US that
allow this to happen. The most immediate goal of Obama's Afghan-Pakistan escalation is therefore to promote a general secessionist
uprising of the entire Pashtun people under Taliban auspices, which would already have the effect of destroying the national unity of
both Kabul and Islamabad . BALUCHISTAN The other ethnic group which the Obama strategy seeks to goad into insurrection and secession
is the Baluchis. The Baluchis have their own grievances against the Iranian central government in Tehran , which they see as being
dominated by Persians. An integral part of the new Obama policy is to expand the deadly flights of the CIA Predators and other
assassination drones into Baluchistan . One pretext for this is the report, peddled for example by Michael Ware of CNN, that Osama
bin Laden and his MI-6 sidekick Zawahiri are both holed up in the Baluchi city of Quetta, where they operate as the kingpins of the
so-called "Quetta Shura." Blackwater teams cannot be far behind. In Iranian Baluchistan, the CIA is funding the murderous Jundullah
organization, which was recently denounced by Teheran for the murder of a number of top officials of the Iranian Pasdaran Revolutionary
guards. The rebellion of Baluchistan would smash the national unity of both Pakistan and Iran , thus helping to destroy two of the leading
targets of US policy. OBAMA'S RUBE GOLDBERG STRATEGY Even Chris Matthews of MSNBC, normally a devoted acolyte of Obama, pointed
out that the US strategy as announced at West Point very much resembles a Rube Goldberg contraption. (In the real world, "al Qaeda" is of
course the CIA's own Arab and terrorist legion.) In the world of official US myth, the enemy is supposed to be "Al Qaeda." But, even according
to the US government, there are precious few "Al Qaeda" fighters left in Afghanistan . Why then, asked Matthews, concentrate US forces in
Afghanistan where "Al Qaeda" is not, rather than in Pakistan where "Al Qaeda" is now alleged to be? One elected official who has criticized
this incongruous mismatch is Democratic Senator Russ Feingold of Wisconsin, who said in a television interview that 'Pakistan, in the border
region near Afghanistan, is perhaps the epicenter [of global terrorism], although al Qaida is operating all over the world, in Yemen, in Somalia,
in northern Africa, affiliates in Southeast Asia. Why would we build up 100,000 or more troops in parts of Afghanistan included that are not
even near the border? You know, this buildup is in Helmand Province . That's not next door to Waziristan . So I'm wondering, what exactly is
this strategy, given the fact that we have seen that there is a minimal presence of Al Qaida in Afghanistan, but a significant presence in
Pakistan ? It just defies common sense that a huge boots on the ground presence in a place where these people are not is the right strategy.
It doesn't make any sense to me.' Indeed. 'The Wisconsin Democrat also warned that U.S. policy in Afghanistan could actually push terrorists
and extremists into Pakistan and, as a consequence, further destabilize the region: "You know, I asked the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff,
dmiral Mullen, and Mr. Holbrooke, our envoy over there, a while ago, you know, is there a risk that if we build up troops in Afghanistan, that
will push more extremists into Pakistan?" he told ABC. "They couldn't deny it, and this week, Prime Minister Gilani of Pakistan specifically said
that his concern about the buildup is that it will drive more extremists into Pakistan, so I think it's just the opposite, that this boots-on-the-
ground approach alienates the Afghan population and specifically encourages the Taliban to further coalesce with Al Qaida, which is the
complete opposite of our national security interest."'[1] Of course, this is all intentional and motivated by US imperialist raison d'état. .
MALICK: "DID OBAMA DECLARE WAR ON PAKISTAN?" Obama's speech did everything possible to blur the distinction between Afghanistan and
Pakistan , which are after all two sovereign states and both members of the United Nations in their own right. Ibrahim Sajid Malick, US
correspondent for Samaa TV, one of the largest Pakistan television networks, called attention to this ploy: 'Speaking to a hall full of cadets
at the US Military Academy of West Point, President Barack Obama almost seemed like he might be declaring war on Pakistan . Every time
he mentioned Afghanistan , Pakistan preceded mention. Sitting at the back benches of the hall at one point I almost jumped out of my chair
when he said: "the stakes are even higher within a nuclear-armed Pakistan , because we know that al Qaeda and other extremists seek nuclear weapons, and we have every reason to believe that they would use them." I was shocked because a succession of American officials recently
confirmed that the Pakistani arsenal is secure.'[2] This article is entitled "Did Obama Declare War On Pakistan?", and we can chalk the question
mark up to diplomatic discretion. During congressional hearings involving General McChrystal and US Ambassador Eikenberry, Afghanistan and
Pakistan were simply fused into one sinister entity known as "Afpak" or even "Afpakia." In the summer of 2007, Obama, coached by Zbigniew
Brzezinski and other controllers, was the originator of the unilateral US policy of using Predator drones for political assassinations inside Pakistan.
This assassination policy is now being massively escalated along with the troop strength: "Two weeks ago in Pakistan, Central Intelligence Agency sharpshooters killed eight people suspected of being militants of the Taliban and Al Qaeda, and wounded two others in a compound that was said
to be used for terrorist training. The White House has authorized an expansion of the C.I.A.'s drone program in Pakistan's lawless tribal areas,
officials said this week, to parallel the president's decisionto send 30,000 more troops to Afghanistan. American officials are talking with Pakistan
about the possibility of striking in Baluchistan for the first time - a controversial move since it is outside the tribal areas - because that is where
Afghan Taliban leaders are believed to hide."[3] The US is now training more Predator operators than combat pilots. BLACKWATER ACCUSED IN PESHAWAR MASSACRE OF WOMEN AND CHILDREN The CIA, the Pentagon, and their various contractors among the private military firms are now
on a murder spree across Pakistan , attacking peaceful villages and wedding parties, among other targets. Blackwater, now calling itself Xe
Services and Total Intelligence Solutions, is heavily involved: 'At a covert forward operating base run by the US Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC) in the Pakistani port city of Karachi, members of an elite division of Blackwater are at the center of a secret program in which they plan targeted assassinations of suspected Taliban and Al Qaeda operatives, "snatch and grabs" of high-value targets and other sensitive action inside
and outside Pakistan, an investigation by The Nation has found. The Blackwater operatives also assist in gathering intelligence and help direct a
Secret US military drone bombing campaign that runs parallel to the well-documented CIA predator strikes, according to a well-placed source
within the US military intelligence apparatus.' [4] As shocking as Scahill's report is, it must nevertheless be viewed as a limited hangout, since
there is no mention of the persistent charges that a large part of the deadly bombings in Peshawar and other Pakistani cities are being carried
out by Blackwater, as this news item suggests: "ISLAMABAD Oct. 29 (Xinhua) -- Chief of Taliban movement in Pakistan Hakimullah Mehsud has
blamed the controversial American private firm Blackwater for the bomb blast in Peshawar which killed 108 people, local news agency NNI r
eported Thursday."[5] This was blind terrorism designed for maximum slaughter, especially among women and children. US ALSO AT WAR WITH UZBEKISTAN? Scahill's report also suggests that US black ops have reached into Uzbekistan, a post-Soviet country of 25 million which borders
Afghanistan to the north: 'In addition to planning drone strikes and operations against suspected Al Qaeda and Taliban forces in Pakistan for
both JSOC and the CIA, the Blackwater team in Karachi also helps plan missions for JSOC inside Uzbekistan against the Islamic Movement of
Uzbekistan, according to the military intelligence source. Blackwater does not actually carry out the operations, he said, which are executed
on the ground by JSOC forces. "That piqued my curiosity and really worries me because I don't know if you noticed but I was never told we are
at war with Uzbekistan ," he said. "So, did I miss something, did Rumsfeld come back into power?"' [6] Such are the ways of hope and change.
The role of US intelligence in fomenting the Baluchistan rebellion for the purpose of breaking Pakistan apart is also confirmed by Professor Chossudovsky: 'Already in 2005, a report by the US National Intelligence Council and the CIA forecast a "Yugoslav-like fate" for Pakistan "in a
decade with the country riven by civil war, bloodshed and inter-provincial rivalries, as seen recently in Baluchistan." (Energy Compass, 2 March
2005 ). According to the NIC-CIA, Pakistan is slated to become a "failed state" by 2015, "as it would be affected by civil war, complete
Talibanization and struggle for control of its nuclear weapons". (Quoted by former Pakistan High Commissioner to UK , Wajid Shamsul Hasan,
Times of India, 13 February 2005 ). Washington favors the creation of a "Greater Baluchistan" which would integrate the Baluch areas of
Pakistan with those of Iran and possibly the Southern tip of Afghanistan, thereby leading to a process of political fracturing in both Iran and Pakistan.'[7] The Iranians, for their part, are adamant that the US is committing acts of war on their territory in Baluchistan : " TEHRAN ,
Oct. 29 (Xinhua) -- Iran 's Parliament Speaker Ali Larijani said that there are some concrete evidences showing U.S. involvement in recent
deadly bomb explosions in the country's Sistan-Baluchistan province, the official IRNA news agency reported. . The deadly suicide attack by
Sunni rebel group Jundallah (God's soldiers) occurred on Oct. 18 in Iran 's Sistan-Baluchistan province near the border with Pakistan when the
local officials were preparing a ceremony in which the local tribal leaders were to meet the military commanders of Iran 's Revolutionary
Guards Corps (IRGC).[8] US GOAL: CUT THE PAKISTAN ENERGY CORRIDOR BETWEEN IRAN, CHINA Why would the United States be so obsessed
with the breakup of Pakistan ? One reason is that Pakistan is traditionally a strategic ally and economic partner of China , a country which the
US and British are determined to oppose and contain on the world stage. Specifically, Pakistan could function as an energy corridor linking the
oil fields of Iran and possibly even Iraq with the Chinese market by means of a pipeline that would cross the Himalayas above Kashmir. This is
the so-called "Pipelinestan" issue. This would give China a guaranteed land-based oil supply not subject to Anglo-American naval superiority,
while also cutting out the 12,000 mile tanker route around the southern rim of Asia . As a recent news report points out: ' Beijing has been
pressuring Tehran for China 's participation in the pipeline project and Islamabad , while willing to sign a bilateral agreement with Iran , has
also welcomed China 's participation. According to an estimate, such a pipeline would result in Pakistan getting $200 million to $500 million
annually in transit fees alone. China and Pakistan are already working on a proposal for laying a trans-Himalayan pipeline to carry Middle Eastern
crude oil to western China . Pakistan provides China the shortest possible route to import oil from the Gulf countries. The pipeline, which would
run from the southern Pakistan port of Gwadar and follow the Karakoram highway, would be partly financed by Beijing . The Chinese are also
building a refinery at Gwadar. Imports using the pipeline would allow Beijing to reduce the portion of its oil shipped through the narrow and
unsafe Strait of Malacca , which at present carries up to 80% of its oil imports. Islamabad also plans to extend a railway track to China to connect
it to Gwadar. The port is also considered the likely terminus of proposed multibillion-dollar gas pipelines reaching from the South Pars fields in
Iran or from Qatar , and from the Daulatabad fields in Turkmenistan for export to world markets. Syed Fazl-e-Haider, " Pakistan , Iran sign gas
pipeline deal," Asia Times, 27 May 2009 .[9] This is the normal, peaceful economic progress and cooperation which the Anglo-Americans are hell-
bent on stopping. Oil and natural gas pipelines from Iran across Pakistan and into China would carry energy resources into the Middle Kingdom,
and would also serve as conveyor belts for Chinese economic influence into the Middle East . This would make Anglo-American dominion
increasingly tenuous in a part of the world which London and Washington have traditionally sought to control as part of their overall strategy of
world domination. US domestic propaganda is already portraying Pakistan as the new home base of terrorism. The four pathetic patsies going on
trial for an alleged plot to bomb a synagogue in the Riverdale neighborhood of the Bronx in New York City had been carefully sheep-dipped to
associate them with the shadowy and suspicious Jaish-e-Mohammad, allegedly a Pakistani terrorist group. The same goes for the five Moslems
from Northern Virginia who have just been arrested near Lahore in Pakistan. INDIA AND IRAN As far as the neighboring states are concerned,
India under the unfortunate Manmohan Singh seems to be accepting the role of continental dagger against Pakistan and China on behalf of the
US and the British. This is a recipe for a colossal tragedy. India should rather make permanent peace with Pakistan by vacating the Vale of Kashmir, where 95% of the population is Moslem and would like to join Pakistan. Without a solution to this issue, there will be no peace on the subcontinent. Regarding Iran, George Friedman, the head of the Stratfor outlet of the US intelligence community recently told Russia Today that the great novelty
of the next decade will be an alliance of the United States with Iran directed against Russia. In that scenario, Iran would cut off oil to China
altogether. That is the essence of the Brzezinski strategy. It is urgent that the antiwar movement in the United States regroup and begin a new mobilization against the cynical hypocrisy of Obama's war and escalation policy, which suprasses even the war crimes of the Bush-Cheny neocons.
In this new phase of the Great Game, the stakes are incalculable. NOTES[1] http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/0 ... 81729.html [2] Ibrahim Sajid Malick, "Did Obama Declare War On Pakistan?," Pakistan for Pakistanis Blog, 2 December 2009. http://ibrahimsajidmalick.com/did-Obama ... istan/484/ [3] Scott Shane, "C.I.A. to Expand Use of Drones in Pakistan," New York Times, December 3, 2009. See also David E. Sanger and Eric
Schmitt, "Between the Lines, an Expansion in Pakistan," New York Times, 1 December 2009. [4] Jeremy Scahill, "The Secret US War in Pakistan," The Nation, November 23, 2009 [5] "Taliban in Pakistan blame U.S. Blackwater for deadly blast," Xinhua News Agency, 29 October 2009, http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009- ... 358907.htm
[6] Jeremy Scahill, "The Secret US War in Pakistan," The Nation, November 23, 2009 [7] Michel Chossudovsky, The Destabilization of Pakistan,
Global Research, December 30, 2007 [8] "Iran says having evidences of U.S. involvement in suicide bomb attacks," Xinhua, 29 October 2009. [9] http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/KE27Df03.html
Osama Bin Laden: Dead Or Alive
Post by kenmurray » Fri Jun 18, 2010 8:26 am
Bruce, soldiers dying in Afghanistan each day for what ? Especially since in my opinion Bin Laden has been dead for years now and our govt
knows it!Here is the BBC documentary that was aired in January 2010:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cpqg9SF2 ... re=related
"the vast military industrial complex will lie ..."
Post by tom jeffers » Fri Jun 18, 2010 11:04 am
Bruce, My son troy decided right after 911 to enter the air force academy to get his education and because he is a fine young patriotic
american and wanted to contribute. he is much more naive than me but i spported his decision thinking that there is no way we would
still be over there when he graduated. (how naive can i get!) He was the only one in his class to be assigned to the pentagon (had to be
on a reccommendation from some big shot at the school) and I was relieved because I thought he would live out his military years being
a paper pusher. he just informed me this week that he volunteered to go to afghanistan. he never even talked to me about it. he leaves
december 2. he was persuaded by his testosterone military advisors that if he wanted to stay in as a career and get to major he needed
combat duty plus this would look good to the cadets (have credibility) that he would eventually be teaching in the academy. (he wants to
teach at the academy)he has got the kind of heart that tillman had and you know what happened to him. I think of fogerty's song "senators
son" and look at those politicians that send my blood, your blood out to slaughter while their children go to plush ivy league schools and get
their experience in some attorney's office. when i saw bush 2 on that aircraft carrier dressed as a pilot and pretending to be one of the boys, I
get sick thinking how many of us americans are still buying into this war and that WE ARE FIGHTING FOR FREEDOM! BULLSH!T!NAMASTE'
Re: "the vast military industrial complex will lie ..."
Post by kenmurray » Fri Jun 18, 2010 4:15 pm
My son goes off to the Navy next week where he will do his basic training in Chicago, then his job training in Connecticut. His job will be
on a nuclear sub. Despite what we think about the wars going on today in the world, never forget our troops.
"the vast military industrial complex will lie ..."
Post by Bob Fox » Sun Feb 10, 2013 5:23 pm
Please see this chart...http://www.pgpf.org/Chart-Archive/0053_ ... on.aspxSee the words of Dwight D. Eisenhower in his last speech
to the country as President... "A vital element in keeping the peace is our military establishment. Our arms must be mighty, ready for
instant action, so that no potential aggressor may be tempted to risk his own destruction. Our military organization today bears little
relation to that known by any of my predecessors in peacetime, or indeed by the fighting men of World War II or Korea. Until the latest
of our world conflicts, the United States had no armaments industry. American makers of plowshares could, with time and as required,
make swords as well. But now we can no longer risk emergency improvisation of national defense; we have been compelled to create a
permanent armaments industry of vast proportions. Added to this, three and a half million men and women are directly engaged in the
defense establishment. We annually spend on military security more than the net income of all United States corporations. This conjunction
of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence -- economic, political,
even spiritual -- is felt in every city, every State house, every office of the Federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development. Yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources and livelihood are all involved; so is the very
structure of our society. In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or
unsought, by the militaryindustrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist. We must never
let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods
and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together. Akin to, and largely responsible for the sweeping changes in our industrial-military posture, has been the technological revolution during recent decades. In this revolution, research has become central; it also becomes more formalized, complex, and costly. A steadily increasing share is conducted for, by, or at the direction of, the Federal government. Today, the
solitary inventor, tinkering in his shop, has been overshadowed by task forces of scientists in laboratories and testing fields. In the same fashion,
the free university, historically the fountainhead of free ideas and scientific discovery, has experienced a revolution in the conduct of research.
Partly because of the huge costs involved, a government contract becomes virtually a substitute for intellectual curiosity. For every old
blackboard there are now hundreds of new electronic computers. The prospect of domination of the nation's scholars by Federal employment,
project allocations, and the power of money is ever present and is gravely to be regarded. Yet, in holding scientific research and discovery in
respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific technological elite. It is the task of statesmanship to mold, to balance, and to integrate these and other forces, new and old, within
the principles of our democratic system -- ever aiming toward the supreme goals of our free society. "
"the vast military industrial complex will lie ..."
Post by Bruce P. Brychek » Sat Aug 03, 2024 11:20 am
Saturday
08.03.2024
12:20 p.m.,
Chicago, Illinois time:
Dear Global Forum Members and Readers
04.27.2007 - I originally Posted this Penetratingly Powerful Headline and Supporting Material.
Brilliant additions and input with many Thanks to some of our most brilliant members.
Think through all of the material realizing we were thinking this way in 2007 ?
How does this relate to how you are thinking in August, 2024 before the POTUS Selection Process ?
thoughts...
best...
bb.
04.01.2026
3:22 p.m.,
Chicago, Illinois time:
Dear Global Forum members and Readers:
04.27.2007 - Nearly 20 years ago I Originally Posted this Powerful Headline and Supporting Material
entitled "the vast military industrial complex will lie ..."
Some of our most brilliant members eloquently joined the discussion.
04.01.2026 - The U.S. and Israel are in an Undeclared War with Iran that the U.S. began with a
Preemptive Strike, just like the Japanese did to us at Pearl Harbor in the minds of many around
the world.
Have we improved ?
thoughts...
best...
bb.
"the vast military industrial complex will lie ..."
Post by Bruce Patrick Brychek » Fri Apr 27, 2007 3:20 pm
Dear Global Forum Members and Readers:
"...the vast military industrial complex will lie to you when it serves its purpose and seems to have as
much respect for educated, right-thinking Americans - indeed, for its own educated, right-thinking
soldiers - as a wolf pack does for its lambs."
Who could have written this strong language ?
Surely must be a conspiracy theorist of some sort ?
A JFK Forum conspiracy theorist ?
Maybe a Martin Luther King, Jr. conspiracy theorist ?
Probably a Robert F. Kennedy Conspiracy theorist, then ?
Or somebody who doesn't believe the U.S. Government story line about the Oklahoma bombing,
and Timothy McVey ?
And if not the above, then certainly some nut job who espouses Operation Northwoods, and
09.11.2001 conspiracy theories ?
Which ever, must be somebody that belongs to one of these nut job conspiracy theories because
our government and military would never cover-up anything, and even less likely that they would
do it together, right ?
Especially if President George W. Bush has his name in the mix ?
Right ?
Wrong !
Read today's Chicago Sun Times, Friday, April 27, 2007, page 135.
Not the Current Affairs section, not the government section, but the Sports Section.
Sun Times Columnist Rick Telander, who I enjoy reading by the way, writes about the cover-ups by the
U.S. Military Industrial Complex and the U.S. Government in the following two (2) cases:
1. Former NFL Star Pat Tilman's death, and cover-up.
2. The Jessica Lynch fraud scheme.
And while we are at it, four (4) years ago this week, President George W. Bush declared U.S.
Military Victory in Iraq.
Now, if events as recent as this are covered-up, and manipulated, and down right lied about, who
of us can ever expect any real complete truth from the U.S. Government, the U.S. Military Industrial
Complex, the CIA, the FBI, or any of the other alphabet groups running around lying at the behest
of our "leaders, and those in positions of power ?"
Let's send Rick Telander an application for Membership, and maybe leadership in our "Conspiracy
Nut - Conspiracy Theory Committees."
As always, I strongly recommend that you first read, research, and study material completely
yourself about a Subject Matter, and then formulate your own Opinions and Theories.
Any additional analyses, interviews, investigations, readings, research, studies, thoughts, or
writings on any aspect of this Subject Matter ?
Bear in mind that we are trying to attract and educate a Whole New Generation of JFK Researchers
who may not be as well versed as you.
thoughts...
best...
bb.
Iraq War To Take At Least Two More Years To Win ?????
Post by Bruce Patrick Brychek » Wed Jul 25, 2007 10:31 am
Dear Global Forum Members and Readers:
It was announced yesterday the the U.S. Military leaders in Iraq stated that we will need at least
two (2) more years to win the War in Iraq ? I recall President Bush declaring Victory in Iraq four
(4)years ago.
The Iraq War is now clearly longer than World War II.
As always, I strongly recommend that you first read, research, and study material completely
yourself about a Subject Matter, and then formulate your own Opinions and Theories.
Any additional analyses, interviews, investigations, readings, research, studies, thoughts, or
writings on any aspect of this Subject Matter ?
Bear in mind that we are trying to attract and educate a Whole New Generation of JFK Researchers
who may not be as well versed as you.
thoughts...
best...
bb.
Post by R Croxford » Wed Jul 25, 2007 4:14 pm
You know Eisenhower actually called it " The military idustrialized congress?" Changed it at last minute
not to piss anyone off.
I am telling you he told Kennedy the truth about the CFR which he was a member of and Kennedy was
going to shut em down.
Please for god's sake look at the history of the Council and read everything you can and see the truth.
Everything you are mentioning here is directly related to them alone. I am working on a few pages to
try and explain it with no BS. http://rcroxford.spaces.live.com/
Demand the truth from congress about the CFR! They cannot govern the halls of our government any longer.
I will say it again so everyone understands.
If every person in our government was a former member of the KKK? Wouldn't you be able to say that THERE
IS AN AGENDA!
There is an agenda and it is to rule the world. There is no difference in what Hitler did and what WE are doing
right now. NONE!
Ok I am done.
Peace
Reply to Bruce Brychek
Post by Brian White » Sat Jul 28, 2007 1:42 pm
Mr. Brychek- Has anyone ever explained how they are going to define victory in Iraq ? Or Afghanistan ? - when we're
not even fighting a clearly defined entity ? Is Osama bin Laden going to sign a surrender document on behalf of all
terrorists? Will we have V-T Day ?
Seriously- Alex Jones was talking about Pat Tillman's death. It looks like he was "triple-tapped" through the forehead
by an M4 weapon at close range- they fire a 3 round burst with one trigger pull. Very suspicious. He was planning on
coming home and becoming an anti-war activist.
On the subject of the military-industrial complex, I'd like to humbly recommend to all forum members (if you haven't
read it already), Richard E. Sprague's 1977 book "The Taking of America 1-2-3". He talks about a "Power Control Group"
that has been behind the scenes, manipulating events in this country at least since the U-2 incident in 1960. Some of it
is dated (the afterword is from 1985), and you won't agree with his account of the JFK assassination, but it's fascinating
reading. He has some interesting theories about Chappaquiddick and the George Wallace shooting as well. The entire book
is at www.ratical.org. My apologies if it has already been discussed here (I haven't read everything yet!) Also my apologies f
or not linking directly to it, but...I don't know how!
Addendum
Post by Brian White » Sun Jul 29, 2007 12:36 pm
OK, it linked automatically - learn something new every day, huh? Google search for the book by title when you
get there. Again, HIGHLY recommended!
Re: "the vast military industrial complex will lie ..."
Post by ChristophMessner » Mon Dec 14, 2009 4:03 am
The final crusade in the Middle East is nothing else than colonialism. Many structures and social habits in these Islam
coined states are backward and barbaric, like when women have no rights to defend themselves from violations and
suppressions. But the big question is, whether the western way of secular life under the rule of "enlightened rationalism"
(rule by the bankers and exploiters?) is less barbaric, cause in the envisioned World State women and men might not have
the right to defend themselves from violations and suppressions. It's advisable to stay out of the spiral of force and counter-
force and read good philosophy instead.
Re: "the vast military industrial complex will lie ..."
Post by Bob Fox » Tue Dec 15, 2009 7:57 am
Bruce take a look at this great article by Webster Tarpley, the man who also helped write this great book... George Bush:
The Unauthorized Biography Obama Declares War On Pakistan December 14th, 2009 Webster G. TarpleyObama's West Point
speech of December 1 represents far more than the obvious brutal escalation in Afghanistan -- it is nothing less than a
declaration of all-out war by the United States against Pakistan. This is a brand-new war, a much wider war now targeting
Pakistan, a country of 160 million people armed with nuclear weapons. In the process, Afghanistan is scheduled
to be broken up. This is no longer the Bush Cheney Afghan war we have known in the past. This is something immensely
bigger: the attempt to destroy the Pakistani central government in Islamabad and to sink that country into a chaos of civil
war, Balkanization, subdivision and general mayhem. The chosen strategy is to massively export the Afghan civil war into
Pakistan and beyond, fracturing Pakistan along ethnic lines. It is an oblique war using fourth-generation or guerrilla warfare
techniques to assail a country which the United States and its associates in aggression are far too weak to attack directly.
In this war, the Taliban are employed as US proxies. This aggression against Pakistan is Obama's attempt to wage the Great
Game against the hub of Central Asia and Eurasia or more generally.US DETERRED FROM OPEN WAR BY PAKISTAN 'S NUKES
The ongoing civil war in Afghanistan is merely a pretext, a cover story designed to provide the United States with a
springboard for a geopolitical destabilization campaign in the entire region which cannot be publicly avowed. In the blunt
cynical world of imperialist aggression à la Bush and Cheney, a pretext might have been manufactured to attack Pakistan
directly. But Pakistan is far too large and the United States is far too weak and too bankrupt for such an undertaking. In
addition, Pakistan is a nuclear power, possessing atomic bombs and medium range missiles needed to deliver them. What
we are seeing is a novel case of nuclear deterrence in action. The US cannot send an invasion fleet or set up airbases nearby
because Pakistani nuclear weapons might destroy them. To this extent, the efforts of Ali Bhutto and A.Q. Khan to provide
Pakistan a deterrent capability have been vindicated. But the US answer is to find ways to attack Pakistan below the nuclear
threshold, and even below the conventional threshold. This is where the tactic of exporting the Afghan civil war to Pakistan
comes in. The architect of the new Pakistani civil war is US Special Forces General Stanley McChrystal, who organized the
infamous network of US torture chambers in Iraq . McChrystal's specific credential for the Pakistani civil war is his role in
unleashing the Iraqi civil war of Sunnis versus Shiites by creating "al Qaeda in Iraq " under the infamous and now departed
double agent Zarkawi. If Iraqi society as a whole had lined up against the US invaders, the occupiers would have soon been
driven out. The counter-gang known as "Al Qaeda in Iraq " avoided that possibility by killing Shiites, and thus calling forth
massive retaliation in the form of a civil war. These tactics are drawn from the work of British General Frank Kitson, who
wrote about them in his book Low Intensity Warfare. If the United States possesses a modern analog to Heinrich Himmler
of the SS, it is surely General McChrystal, Obama's hand-picked choice. McChrystal's superior, Gen Petraeus, wants to be
the new Field Marshal von Hindenburg in other words, he wants to be the next US president. The vulnerability of Pakistan
which the US and its NATO associates are seeking to exploit can best be understood using a map of the prevalent ethnic
groups of Afghanistan , Pakistan , Iran , and India . Most maps show only political borders which date back to the time of
British imperialism, and therefore fail to reflect the principal ethnic groups of the region. For the purposes of this analysis,
we must start by recognizing a number of groups. First is the Pashtun people, located mainly in Afghanistan and Pakistan .
Then we have the Baluchis, located primarily in Pakistan and Iran . The Punjabis inhabit Pakistan , as do the Sindhis. The
Bhutto family came from Sind . PASHTUNISTAN The US and NATO strategy begins with the Pashtuns, the ethnic group from
which the so-called Taliban are largely drawn. The Pashtuns represent a substantial portion of the population of Afghanistan ,
but here they are alienated from the central government under President Karzai in Kabul , even though the US puppet Karzai
passes for a Pashtun himself. The issue involves the Afghan National Army, which was created by the United States after the
2001 invasion. The Afghan officer corps are largely Tajiks drawn from the Northern Alliance that allied with the United States
against the Pashtun Talibans. The Tajiks speak Dari, sometimes known as eastern Persian. Other Afghan officers come from the
Hazara people. The important thing is that the Pashtuns feel shut out. The US strategy can best be understood as a deliberate
effort at persecuting, harassing, antagonizing, strafing, repressing, and murdering the Pashtuns. The additional 40,000 US and
NATO forces which Obama demands for Afghanistan will concentrate in Helmand province and other areas where the Pashtuns
are in the majority. The net effect will be to increase the rebellion of the fiercely independent Pashtuns against Kabul and the
foreign occupation, and at the same time to push many of these newly radicalized mujaheddin fighters across the border into
Pakistan , where they can wage war against the central government in Islamabad . US aid will flow directly to war lords and drug
lords, increasing the centrifugal tendencies. On the Pakistani side, the Pashtuns are also alienated from the central government.
Islamabad and the army are seen by them as too much the creatures of the Punjabis, with some input from the Sindhis. On the
Pakistani side of the Pashtun territory, US operations include wholesale assassinations from unmanned aerial vehicles or drones,
murders by CIA and reportedly Blackwater snipers, plus blind terrorist massacres like the recent ones in Peshawar which the Pakistani
Taliban are blaming on Blackwater, acting as a subcontractor of the CIA. These actions are intolerable and humiliating for a proud
sovereign state. Every time the Pashtuns are clobbered, they blame the Punjabis in Islamabad for the dirty deals with the US that
allow this to happen. The most immediate goal of Obama's Afghan-Pakistan escalation is therefore to promote a general secessionist
uprising of the entire Pashtun people under Taliban auspices, which would already have the effect of destroying the national unity of
both Kabul and Islamabad . BALUCHISTAN The other ethnic group which the Obama strategy seeks to goad into insurrection and secession
is the Baluchis. The Baluchis have their own grievances against the Iranian central government in Tehran , which they see as being
dominated by Persians. An integral part of the new Obama policy is to expand the deadly flights of the CIA Predators and other
assassination drones into Baluchistan . One pretext for this is the report, peddled for example by Michael Ware of CNN, that Osama
bin Laden and his MI-6 sidekick Zawahiri are both holed up in the Baluchi city of Quetta, where they operate as the kingpins of the
so-called "Quetta Shura." Blackwater teams cannot be far behind. In Iranian Baluchistan, the CIA is funding the murderous Jundullah
organization, which was recently denounced by Teheran for the murder of a number of top officials of the Iranian Pasdaran Revolutionary
guards. The rebellion of Baluchistan would smash the national unity of both Pakistan and Iran , thus helping to destroy two of the leading
targets of US policy. OBAMA'S RUBE GOLDBERG STRATEGY Even Chris Matthews of MSNBC, normally a devoted acolyte of Obama, pointed
out that the US strategy as announced at West Point very much resembles a Rube Goldberg contraption. (In the real world, "al Qaeda" is of
course the CIA's own Arab and terrorist legion.) In the world of official US myth, the enemy is supposed to be "Al Qaeda." But, even according
to the US government, there are precious few "Al Qaeda" fighters left in Afghanistan . Why then, asked Matthews, concentrate US forces in
Afghanistan where "Al Qaeda" is not, rather than in Pakistan where "Al Qaeda" is now alleged to be? One elected official who has criticized
this incongruous mismatch is Democratic Senator Russ Feingold of Wisconsin, who said in a television interview that 'Pakistan, in the border
region near Afghanistan, is perhaps the epicenter [of global terrorism], although al Qaida is operating all over the world, in Yemen, in Somalia,
in northern Africa, affiliates in Southeast Asia. Why would we build up 100,000 or more troops in parts of Afghanistan included that are not
even near the border? You know, this buildup is in Helmand Province . That's not next door to Waziristan . So I'm wondering, what exactly is
this strategy, given the fact that we have seen that there is a minimal presence of Al Qaida in Afghanistan, but a significant presence in
Pakistan ? It just defies common sense that a huge boots on the ground presence in a place where these people are not is the right strategy.
It doesn't make any sense to me.' Indeed. 'The Wisconsin Democrat also warned that U.S. policy in Afghanistan could actually push terrorists
and extremists into Pakistan and, as a consequence, further destabilize the region: "You know, I asked the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff,
dmiral Mullen, and Mr. Holbrooke, our envoy over there, a while ago, you know, is there a risk that if we build up troops in Afghanistan, that
will push more extremists into Pakistan?" he told ABC. "They couldn't deny it, and this week, Prime Minister Gilani of Pakistan specifically said
that his concern about the buildup is that it will drive more extremists into Pakistan, so I think it's just the opposite, that this boots-on-the-
ground approach alienates the Afghan population and specifically encourages the Taliban to further coalesce with Al Qaida, which is the
complete opposite of our national security interest."'[1] Of course, this is all intentional and motivated by US imperialist raison d'état. .
MALICK: "DID OBAMA DECLARE WAR ON PAKISTAN?" Obama's speech did everything possible to blur the distinction between Afghanistan and
Pakistan , which are after all two sovereign states and both members of the United Nations in their own right. Ibrahim Sajid Malick, US
correspondent for Samaa TV, one of the largest Pakistan television networks, called attention to this ploy: 'Speaking to a hall full of cadets
at the US Military Academy of West Point, President Barack Obama almost seemed like he might be declaring war on Pakistan . Every time
he mentioned Afghanistan , Pakistan preceded mention. Sitting at the back benches of the hall at one point I almost jumped out of my chair
when he said: "the stakes are even higher within a nuclear-armed Pakistan , because we know that al Qaeda and other extremists seek nuclear weapons, and we have every reason to believe that they would use them." I was shocked because a succession of American officials recently
confirmed that the Pakistani arsenal is secure.'[2] This article is entitled "Did Obama Declare War On Pakistan?", and we can chalk the question
mark up to diplomatic discretion. During congressional hearings involving General McChrystal and US Ambassador Eikenberry, Afghanistan and
Pakistan were simply fused into one sinister entity known as "Afpak" or even "Afpakia." In the summer of 2007, Obama, coached by Zbigniew
Brzezinski and other controllers, was the originator of the unilateral US policy of using Predator drones for political assassinations inside Pakistan.
This assassination policy is now being massively escalated along with the troop strength: "Two weeks ago in Pakistan, Central Intelligence Agency sharpshooters killed eight people suspected of being militants of the Taliban and Al Qaeda, and wounded two others in a compound that was said
to be used for terrorist training. The White House has authorized an expansion of the C.I.A.'s drone program in Pakistan's lawless tribal areas,
officials said this week, to parallel the president's decisionto send 30,000 more troops to Afghanistan. American officials are talking with Pakistan
about the possibility of striking in Baluchistan for the first time - a controversial move since it is outside the tribal areas - because that is where
Afghan Taliban leaders are believed to hide."[3] The US is now training more Predator operators than combat pilots. BLACKWATER ACCUSED IN PESHAWAR MASSACRE OF WOMEN AND CHILDREN The CIA, the Pentagon, and their various contractors among the private military firms are now
on a murder spree across Pakistan , attacking peaceful villages and wedding parties, among other targets. Blackwater, now calling itself Xe
Services and Total Intelligence Solutions, is heavily involved: 'At a covert forward operating base run by the US Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC) in the Pakistani port city of Karachi, members of an elite division of Blackwater are at the center of a secret program in which they plan targeted assassinations of suspected Taliban and Al Qaeda operatives, "snatch and grabs" of high-value targets and other sensitive action inside
and outside Pakistan, an investigation by The Nation has found. The Blackwater operatives also assist in gathering intelligence and help direct a
Secret US military drone bombing campaign that runs parallel to the well-documented CIA predator strikes, according to a well-placed source
within the US military intelligence apparatus.' [4] As shocking as Scahill's report is, it must nevertheless be viewed as a limited hangout, since
there is no mention of the persistent charges that a large part of the deadly bombings in Peshawar and other Pakistani cities are being carried
out by Blackwater, as this news item suggests: "ISLAMABAD Oct. 29 (Xinhua) -- Chief of Taliban movement in Pakistan Hakimullah Mehsud has
blamed the controversial American private firm Blackwater for the bomb blast in Peshawar which killed 108 people, local news agency NNI r
eported Thursday."[5] This was blind terrorism designed for maximum slaughter, especially among women and children. US ALSO AT WAR WITH UZBEKISTAN? Scahill's report also suggests that US black ops have reached into Uzbekistan, a post-Soviet country of 25 million which borders
Afghanistan to the north: 'In addition to planning drone strikes and operations against suspected Al Qaeda and Taliban forces in Pakistan for
both JSOC and the CIA, the Blackwater team in Karachi also helps plan missions for JSOC inside Uzbekistan against the Islamic Movement of
Uzbekistan, according to the military intelligence source. Blackwater does not actually carry out the operations, he said, which are executed
on the ground by JSOC forces. "That piqued my curiosity and really worries me because I don't know if you noticed but I was never told we are
at war with Uzbekistan ," he said. "So, did I miss something, did Rumsfeld come back into power?"' [6] Such are the ways of hope and change.
The role of US intelligence in fomenting the Baluchistan rebellion for the purpose of breaking Pakistan apart is also confirmed by Professor Chossudovsky: 'Already in 2005, a report by the US National Intelligence Council and the CIA forecast a "Yugoslav-like fate" for Pakistan "in a
decade with the country riven by civil war, bloodshed and inter-provincial rivalries, as seen recently in Baluchistan." (Energy Compass, 2 March
2005 ). According to the NIC-CIA, Pakistan is slated to become a "failed state" by 2015, "as it would be affected by civil war, complete
Talibanization and struggle for control of its nuclear weapons". (Quoted by former Pakistan High Commissioner to UK , Wajid Shamsul Hasan,
Times of India, 13 February 2005 ). Washington favors the creation of a "Greater Baluchistan" which would integrate the Baluch areas of
Pakistan with those of Iran and possibly the Southern tip of Afghanistan, thereby leading to a process of political fracturing in both Iran and Pakistan.'[7] The Iranians, for their part, are adamant that the US is committing acts of war on their territory in Baluchistan : " TEHRAN ,
Oct. 29 (Xinhua) -- Iran 's Parliament Speaker Ali Larijani said that there are some concrete evidences showing U.S. involvement in recent
deadly bomb explosions in the country's Sistan-Baluchistan province, the official IRNA news agency reported. . The deadly suicide attack by
Sunni rebel group Jundallah (God's soldiers) occurred on Oct. 18 in Iran 's Sistan-Baluchistan province near the border with Pakistan when the
local officials were preparing a ceremony in which the local tribal leaders were to meet the military commanders of Iran 's Revolutionary
Guards Corps (IRGC).[8] US GOAL: CUT THE PAKISTAN ENERGY CORRIDOR BETWEEN IRAN, CHINA Why would the United States be so obsessed
with the breakup of Pakistan ? One reason is that Pakistan is traditionally a strategic ally and economic partner of China , a country which the
US and British are determined to oppose and contain on the world stage. Specifically, Pakistan could function as an energy corridor linking the
oil fields of Iran and possibly even Iraq with the Chinese market by means of a pipeline that would cross the Himalayas above Kashmir. This is
the so-called "Pipelinestan" issue. This would give China a guaranteed land-based oil supply not subject to Anglo-American naval superiority,
while also cutting out the 12,000 mile tanker route around the southern rim of Asia . As a recent news report points out: ' Beijing has been
pressuring Tehran for China 's participation in the pipeline project and Islamabad , while willing to sign a bilateral agreement with Iran , has
also welcomed China 's participation. According to an estimate, such a pipeline would result in Pakistan getting $200 million to $500 million
annually in transit fees alone. China and Pakistan are already working on a proposal for laying a trans-Himalayan pipeline to carry Middle Eastern
crude oil to western China . Pakistan provides China the shortest possible route to import oil from the Gulf countries. The pipeline, which would
run from the southern Pakistan port of Gwadar and follow the Karakoram highway, would be partly financed by Beijing . The Chinese are also
building a refinery at Gwadar. Imports using the pipeline would allow Beijing to reduce the portion of its oil shipped through the narrow and
unsafe Strait of Malacca , which at present carries up to 80% of its oil imports. Islamabad also plans to extend a railway track to China to connect
it to Gwadar. The port is also considered the likely terminus of proposed multibillion-dollar gas pipelines reaching from the South Pars fields in
Iran or from Qatar , and from the Daulatabad fields in Turkmenistan for export to world markets. Syed Fazl-e-Haider, " Pakistan , Iran sign gas
pipeline deal," Asia Times, 27 May 2009 .[9] This is the normal, peaceful economic progress and cooperation which the Anglo-Americans are hell-
bent on stopping. Oil and natural gas pipelines from Iran across Pakistan and into China would carry energy resources into the Middle Kingdom,
and would also serve as conveyor belts for Chinese economic influence into the Middle East . This would make Anglo-American dominion
increasingly tenuous in a part of the world which London and Washington have traditionally sought to control as part of their overall strategy of
world domination. US domestic propaganda is already portraying Pakistan as the new home base of terrorism. The four pathetic patsies going on
trial for an alleged plot to bomb a synagogue in the Riverdale neighborhood of the Bronx in New York City had been carefully sheep-dipped to
associate them with the shadowy and suspicious Jaish-e-Mohammad, allegedly a Pakistani terrorist group. The same goes for the five Moslems
from Northern Virginia who have just been arrested near Lahore in Pakistan. INDIA AND IRAN As far as the neighboring states are concerned,
India under the unfortunate Manmohan Singh seems to be accepting the role of continental dagger against Pakistan and China on behalf of the
US and the British. This is a recipe for a colossal tragedy. India should rather make permanent peace with Pakistan by vacating the Vale of Kashmir, where 95% of the population is Moslem and would like to join Pakistan. Without a solution to this issue, there will be no peace on the subcontinent. Regarding Iran, George Friedman, the head of the Stratfor outlet of the US intelligence community recently told Russia Today that the great novelty
of the next decade will be an alliance of the United States with Iran directed against Russia. In that scenario, Iran would cut off oil to China
altogether. That is the essence of the Brzezinski strategy. It is urgent that the antiwar movement in the United States regroup and begin a new mobilization against the cynical hypocrisy of Obama's war and escalation policy, which suprasses even the war crimes of the Bush-Cheny neocons.
In this new phase of the Great Game, the stakes are incalculable. NOTES[1] http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/0 ... 81729.html [2] Ibrahim Sajid Malick, "Did Obama Declare War On Pakistan?," Pakistan for Pakistanis Blog, 2 December 2009. http://ibrahimsajidmalick.com/did-Obama ... istan/484/ [3] Scott Shane, "C.I.A. to Expand Use of Drones in Pakistan," New York Times, December 3, 2009. See also David E. Sanger and Eric
Schmitt, "Between the Lines, an Expansion in Pakistan," New York Times, 1 December 2009. [4] Jeremy Scahill, "The Secret US War in Pakistan," The Nation, November 23, 2009 [5] "Taliban in Pakistan blame U.S. Blackwater for deadly blast," Xinhua News Agency, 29 October 2009, http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009- ... 358907.htm
[6] Jeremy Scahill, "The Secret US War in Pakistan," The Nation, November 23, 2009 [7] Michel Chossudovsky, The Destabilization of Pakistan,
Global Research, December 30, 2007 [8] "Iran says having evidences of U.S. involvement in suicide bomb attacks," Xinhua, 29 October 2009. [9] http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/KE27Df03.html
Osama Bin Laden: Dead Or Alive
Post by kenmurray » Fri Jun 18, 2010 8:26 am
Bruce, soldiers dying in Afghanistan each day for what ? Especially since in my opinion Bin Laden has been dead for years now and our govt
knows it!Here is the BBC documentary that was aired in January 2010:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cpqg9SF2 ... re=related
"the vast military industrial complex will lie ..."
Post by tom jeffers » Fri Jun 18, 2010 11:04 am
Bruce, My son troy decided right after 911 to enter the air force academy to get his education and because he is a fine young patriotic
american and wanted to contribute. he is much more naive than me but i spported his decision thinking that there is no way we would
still be over there when he graduated. (how naive can i get!) He was the only one in his class to be assigned to the pentagon (had to be
on a reccommendation from some big shot at the school) and I was relieved because I thought he would live out his military years being
a paper pusher. he just informed me this week that he volunteered to go to afghanistan. he never even talked to me about it. he leaves
december 2. he was persuaded by his testosterone military advisors that if he wanted to stay in as a career and get to major he needed
combat duty plus this would look good to the cadets (have credibility) that he would eventually be teaching in the academy. (he wants to
teach at the academy)he has got the kind of heart that tillman had and you know what happened to him. I think of fogerty's song "senators
son" and look at those politicians that send my blood, your blood out to slaughter while their children go to plush ivy league schools and get
their experience in some attorney's office. when i saw bush 2 on that aircraft carrier dressed as a pilot and pretending to be one of the boys, I
get sick thinking how many of us americans are still buying into this war and that WE ARE FIGHTING FOR FREEDOM! BULLSH!T!NAMASTE'
Re: "the vast military industrial complex will lie ..."
Post by kenmurray » Fri Jun 18, 2010 4:15 pm
My son goes off to the Navy next week where he will do his basic training in Chicago, then his job training in Connecticut. His job will be
on a nuclear sub. Despite what we think about the wars going on today in the world, never forget our troops.
"the vast military industrial complex will lie ..."
Post by Bob Fox » Sun Feb 10, 2013 5:23 pm
Please see this chart...http://www.pgpf.org/Chart-Archive/0053_ ... on.aspxSee the words of Dwight D. Eisenhower in his last speech
to the country as President... "A vital element in keeping the peace is our military establishment. Our arms must be mighty, ready for
instant action, so that no potential aggressor may be tempted to risk his own destruction. Our military organization today bears little
relation to that known by any of my predecessors in peacetime, or indeed by the fighting men of World War II or Korea. Until the latest
of our world conflicts, the United States had no armaments industry. American makers of plowshares could, with time and as required,
make swords as well. But now we can no longer risk emergency improvisation of national defense; we have been compelled to create a
permanent armaments industry of vast proportions. Added to this, three and a half million men and women are directly engaged in the
defense establishment. We annually spend on military security more than the net income of all United States corporations. This conjunction
of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence -- economic, political,
even spiritual -- is felt in every city, every State house, every office of the Federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development. Yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources and livelihood are all involved; so is the very
structure of our society. In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or
unsought, by the militaryindustrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist. We must never
let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods
and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together. Akin to, and largely responsible for the sweeping changes in our industrial-military posture, has been the technological revolution during recent decades. In this revolution, research has become central; it also becomes more formalized, complex, and costly. A steadily increasing share is conducted for, by, or at the direction of, the Federal government. Today, the
solitary inventor, tinkering in his shop, has been overshadowed by task forces of scientists in laboratories and testing fields. In the same fashion,
the free university, historically the fountainhead of free ideas and scientific discovery, has experienced a revolution in the conduct of research.
Partly because of the huge costs involved, a government contract becomes virtually a substitute for intellectual curiosity. For every old
blackboard there are now hundreds of new electronic computers. The prospect of domination of the nation's scholars by Federal employment,
project allocations, and the power of money is ever present and is gravely to be regarded. Yet, in holding scientific research and discovery in
respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific technological elite. It is the task of statesmanship to mold, to balance, and to integrate these and other forces, new and old, within
the principles of our democratic system -- ever aiming toward the supreme goals of our free society. "
"the vast military industrial complex will lie ..."
Post by Bruce P. Brychek » Sat Aug 03, 2024 11:20 am
Saturday
08.03.2024
12:20 p.m.,
Chicago, Illinois time:
Dear Global Forum Members and Readers
04.27.2007 - I originally Posted this Penetratingly Powerful Headline and Supporting Material.
Brilliant additions and input with many Thanks to some of our most brilliant members.
Think through all of the material realizing we were thinking this way in 2007 ?
How does this relate to how you are thinking in August, 2024 before the POTUS Selection Process ?
thoughts...
best...
bb.