If the CIA had called off the "hit"...??

[Alec]

Files says the CIA called off the assassination on 11/23/63, and that it was Nicoletti's decision to "fuck it" and carry it out.Then why were there several CIA members still there? As if something was going to happen?Why did the SS call off the bodyguards at Love Field, if the hit was called off?It seems to me that if there were several hit teams on Dealey Plaza that day, and Files' team got the memo to "abort mission", the other teams got the memo as well?? And that Nicoletti (part of Files' team) was the one to ignore the abort order, then maybe the other hit teams stood down?I am confusing myself as I write this, but I'm sure you kind of/sort of get at what thought I am trying to conjure. If the hit was called off, why were people there to view the "show"?

[andries]

you are not only confusing yourself but me as well, the way you say i have to think this over.

[Alec]

Nevermind it then, this topic can be deleted.

[Bruce Patrick Brychek]

Dear Mr. Alec:Alec - As a newcomer or returning member, I welcome you, and make these 3 observations and recommendations:1. Buy and read Mr. Wim Dankbaar's book, Files On JFK.2. Buy, watch, and listen to both of James Earl Sutton/Files Interviews: A. Confessions Of An Assassin, 1993.B. Files On JFK , 2003.3. Read and study The JFK Forum completely.Your questions are all asked and answered many times in the above referenced material.To give you some simple precise answers in my words, James Earl Sutton/Files stated that Johnny Roselli told Charles Nicoletti that the CIA called off the mission. Roselli, who wore 2 hats, was neither a CIA Agent, controller/handler, or a Mafia Don. He was an underling in both organizations with no power to give orders for either organization. His manner of death speaks to his equivocating loyalties on that day in question, and for related manners.Each probable Hit Team, which I am neither confirming or denying. would have been compartmentalized to maintain control, integrity, and secrecy.Andries - It is now in your court.Comments ?Respectfully,Bruce Patrick Brychek.

[Kirk]

Alec,I think you have asked one of the most critical questions about that whole day. If that one could be totally answered everything else would fall into place. I personally do not think it was called off by the CIA or the powers that be. Some with prior knowledge or involvement may have been told that it was called off as a red herring or disinformation with a purpose. Maybe Oswald thought it was called off, if you knew something in advance, or was trying to stop it before hand, and felt that he had succeeded.Emory Roberts didn't think it was called off,and Jimmy Files did not think it was called off, whether he was the main only shooter from the front. Kirk

[Bruce Patrick Brychek]

Dear Mr. Kirk:Kirk - Please explain how if this one question was totally answered, everything else would fall into place ?I anxiously look forward to your possible/probable explanations.Try Artificial Constructs, or Sequential Time Line Analysis, as both would work for me.Comments ?Respectfully,Bruce Patrick Brychek.

[Dealey Joe]

Alec,Here is my take on your excellent question that comes up on a regular basis here.actually to me it is an involved question that has many ramifications.For some reason very few here believe that there was a stand down.I fully believe that is was a stand down and that is the only way that all that transpired can make any sense.That is the reason everything is so discombobulated, It wasn't supposed to happen.Oswald was out of place, The correct Riffle was not there, Oswald walked away from the TSBD.Everything that happened was screwed up because at the last is was called off.Very few people would have had to been informed. There was NO WAY there were a dozen shooters in the PlazaTosh Plumley was there to help be sure everyone knew of the stand down.Chaunce Holt said it looked like a soldier of fortune outing.I say everyone was there to watch. some may have originally been part of the teams.I also think there was possibly assassination teams at the airport and at the trade mart?for some reason it was called off. maybe the same reasons that Chicago, Miami and possibly Houston was called because of publicised threats about the attempt.Also you must keep in mind that Dallas, Oak Cliff and Irving were hotbeds of every illegal kind of operation imaginable.Back in those days the Chief of Police ran the rackets in the county.And a sheriff's salary of 75,000 per year was probably worth Millions.on and on....

[Jsnow915]

I gotta go with Joe...Oswald was out of place and so was the weapon...all it took was one guy to say F**k it and the followers jumped in...they had to scramble to come up with a suspect.

[tom jeffers]

JOEthat was a good point on the rifle issue. one of the books i have read cant remember the name but this guy who did jobs for giancanna was instructed by him in the spring of 63 to get 4 manlicher carcano's so they could be disassembled and deliver back to him. i don't know why they needed 4 of them who knows, one for a picture shoot, one for a plant, one forthe garage and one for a souvenier. i have always thought that the alledged abort team was for plausible deniability for someone in middle to upper management in the cia. tomhoosier momma hoosier daddy

[Kirk]

Mr. Brychek,Here goes in my opinionFirst, if it was called off by the CIA, then the CIA was involved, which as you know is not the Official story.Second, if the CIA really did call it off, they would have had a good reason, and would be very unhappy that the order was not taken. They would probably react immediately after the dust had settled to punish those that did not follow the rescind order.Third, if the CIA had called it off, none of those with Company connections would have stuck around. Since your friend Mr. Files has those connections he would not have gone against the CIA controls in my opinion, even for his mentor Mr. Nicoletti. I have to assume they are professionals and follow orders. That is how they become respected and trusted, and stay alive. I believe if Mr. Files and Mr. Nicoletti had done something like that they would have been taken care of pretty quickly and neither had enough at stake, financial or emotional to kill the President no matter what anybody wanted. That leaves Phillips of course, and he may and probably was the Control for the CIA in Dealey that day. I doubt since he was also a professional that he would give the order to abort in advance enough for a team to fly in, and not get the whole word out to everybody involved. I doubt he would follow through on the assassination, if an abort order was given by those above him either.So....if you are of the opinion that the CIA was involved, and that they were incharge of the planning and execution of the Assassination with the aid of the Sercret Service and Organized Crime, which I believe it is not possible that there was actual abort that day, except maybe again as a red herring for some to follow, such as Lee Oswald. This would mean of course that Oswald was CIA which I believe as well. If we can find evidence that Oswald was given an abort command that would open up many avenues. He was out to lunch in the lunch room. My question is why there and why then?As my Grand Dad would say Time means little timing means everythingThoughts?KIrkBruce Patrick Brychek wrote:Dear Mr. Kirk:Kirk - Please explain how if this one question was totally answered, everything else would fall into place ?I anxiously look forward to your possible/probable explanations.Try Artificial Constructs, or Sequential Time Line Analysis, as both would work for me.Comments ?Respectfully,Bruce Patrick Brychek.