boy,we are so far away from our independence

Jsnow915 · Post by **Jsnow915** » Tue May 19, 2009 11:19 am

http://www.ushistory.org/declaration/document/index.htm

Bob · Post by **Bob** » Tue May 19, 2009 12:59 pm

You are so right John. Dumbya Bu$h used the constitution like toilet paper. And now Barack Obama is looking tentative in trying to clean up the mess. The founding fathers definitely had flaws. They were all slave owners for the most part for instance. But George Washington was a natural leader, and Thomas Jefferson and Benjamin Franklin were two of the most brilliant minds in U.S. history. I think it was sort of a perfect storm that those three led the way to the beginning of the United States. But what they created is now gone by the way side due to the same type of behavior that England was forcing on the 13 colonies. The Dumbya Bu$h administration was very much like King George at the time of the American Revolution. But Bu$h and others are just pawns to the real power elite...like the Rockefellers...that have controlled the everyday existance in not only the United States, but in the world with groups like the Bilderbergers. Washington, Jefferson and Franklin moved away from the power elite in England and created the United States of America for "WE THE PEOPLE". We the people have no say anymore in the United States. We haven't for a long time. It started in the beginning of the 20th century when families like the Rockefellers and Rothschilds put their stamp on things. There were Presidents that pushed back on that agenda...guys like JFK...but we all know what happened with Kennedy.

Jsnow915 · Post by **Jsnow915** » Tue May 19, 2009 1:37 pm

Exactly Bob...where do we go from here?

Jsnow915 · Post by **Jsnow915** » Tue May 19, 2009 3:29 pm

sorry to all for getting so hot about this...but its amazing how nobody cares...bring up this topic and nobody is listeninghttp://www.topix.com/forum/nyc/T2K3OCSBMA68CGK4E

Bob · Post by **Bob** » Tue May 19, 2009 4:25 pm

Just think about this John, we all thought JFK was murdered for a number of reasons. Reasons like tearing the CIA into 1,000 pieces, getting the U.S. out of Nam and hurting the Miltary Industrial Complex and the war profiteers, not agreeeing to an attack on Cuba or letting Operation Northwoods happen, making BIG oil pay their fair share and letting RFK go after the mob with a vengeance. But the BIGGEST reason he was assassinated might have been the changes he was trying to make with the Federal Reserve.Now look at that list again. Now look at the world today. Who is in the catbird seat nowadays??? The Fed, BIG banking, BIG oil, the Military Industrial Complex/war profiteers and the CIA still does what it does and helps to assist in getting the U.S. into war (like in Iraq) or in helping to torture (like Germany and Japan in WWII). Plus we had 9/11 which looks a LOT like Operation Northwoods, except instead of Cuba, the neocons wanted Iraq.To me, JFK is just as much of hero as Washington, Jefferson or Franklin. Like them, JFK had flaws obviously. But he never tried to sell out his country, like Bu$h and Cheney did. In fact JFK tried to better it.

Bruce Patrick Brychek · Sat Oct 31, 2015 6:57 pm

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