We're back baby!!!

[Bob]

Hey folks. After a 3 day glitch, due to a server issue, we are back in business, thanks to Ed Bishop and his crew. The three days were very interesting though, as I had an opportunity to post at the jfk assassination forum, and debate folks like Paul May, David Von Pein, Bill Brown and of course our friend Sara. John Snow, Chris, Pasquale, and Ken know of the forum obviously, as they are members there as well.This was the link I debated on, along with some of our other members...http://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/in ... .0.htmlThe forum is a nice place to visit, but I wouldn't want to live there. Hopefully, some members there found the stuff I and others there posted informative. Anyway, I feel like Dorothy in the Wizard of Oz...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJ6VT7ciR1oIt's great to be back home!

[kenmurray]

It is great to be back here Bob.

[bob franklin]

ay-flippin-men!!! Still, It was kinda nice taking the battle right to their doorstep. Certain souls over there wanted a debate & got one. Everyone just sorta jumped in!!!!

[Jsnow915]

I was wondering what happened.....good to see all you kooks again.

[dankbaar]

Interesting to see those guys citings of Bob Vernon's letter. I guess they want to believe too that James Files never used the name Sutton, as well as Vernon's misuse of aunt Christine to stress his point. Faith - I don't remember ......... I know we met them when they were still together. I mean, I met him when I was 16 .... when we were kids. Wim - Oh? You were only 16? Faith - Yeah, and I was still in school. And then I married somebody, and we lost track of each other, and then .. aah, I don't remember when we ... Wim - Ah, so that must have been the end of the eighties, somewhere .... Faith - No, that was the fifties. Wim - Oh? You met him even before he married? Faith - Yeah. I was in school. He was 16 too. We're just about the same age. Wim - Aaah! Okay. Faith - And his name was Sutton then. Wim - Ah? ....... Oh, that's good! (laughs) .... Because they also try to say that he never used the name Sutton. But you remember that he used the name Sutton? Faith - Yes. Wim - Okay, very nice, that's good! Because they also try to discredit that. Do you also know when he started to use the name Files? Faith - No, I don't. Like I said I got married and he went about his business. We didn't see each other for several years. And then my husband and I saw him somewhere, and we became friends with him and his wife. But then, you know, we saw each other once in a while. I don't know why they separated. Wim - Ah yeah. Faith - But then later on my husband and I divorced, and then him and I started dating. RE: My book Van: Joy Swain Aan: 'Wim Dankbaar' Datum: 09 sep 2005 - 15:22 Wim,Well, I have always felt that he was but a mere cockroach, the lowest formof life on the planet, the kind of creature that scampers around in the darkbut is blinded and runs and hides when the lights come on. An insect whosebrain is spread throughout its belly, the head only holds a bit of thenervous system. If you were to cut off its head, it would die of starvationor thirst because its head holds no brain matter. It can even continue tolive if its heart stops. Doesn't that sound like Bob? No brain, no heart,nothing. Roaches are pesky but not indestructible.People like Bob always get what's coming to them. It may be today, tomorrowor next week but it will happen. Once you lose your integrity, you havelost everything and while Bob may have a way of succeeding in the beginning,his true colors eventually and always come through. I hated him from themoment I met him and always knew he was in it for only what would benefithimself. He's the kind of man who would turn on his own family if hethought he could make a penny off the deal. Nothing he would EVER do wouldsurprise me. Keep me posted and I will check in on the web-site. Thanks for keeping myfather's dream alive. His spirit is still with us - I know that. I hopeyour book is a smashing success.Joy W. SwainJF: There would never be an open discussion about murder, no matter who they wanted dead. Yes, it would be nice if someone really had a tape on Nixon and Bush or Hunt sitting and talking calmly about killing the president of the United States of America. And you know what? I wish a tape like that really existed. Then it would shut up a lot of these "research specialists" that were not even born at that time, wearing diapers or playing hide and seek.

[Pasquale DiFabrizio]

bob franklin wrote:ay-flippin-men!!! Still, It was kinda nice taking the battle right to their doorstep. Certain souls over there wanted a debate & got one. Everyone just sorta jumped in!!!! Now you know why they can't stand Ken and me. LOL

[Bob]

My goal in posting at that forum was to get some of the other members of that forum to perhaps see some information that maybe they hadn't seen before, or at least not in a certain light. There are others there though, that won't be swayed, no matter what facts and information one brings to the table. If nothing else, I think we made some very valid points, that even people like David Von Pein and Paul May had to agree were correct.

[Jsnow915]

I think the thing that annoys me most about that site is that they are firm belivers in the WC...not so much that they don't believe in Files...CT's like us wanted to find someone we knew behind the fence...not an unknown...but they put all their faith in the WC and believe what they're told by the Government...like I've said a dozen times there...if you DONT think there was a conspiracy,then why waste your time convicing everyone...If I thought that,I'd walk away satisfied and find a new hobby...or spend more time doing something constructive,not forcing people to believe in what I believe in....its a waste of energy.

[Jsnow915]

also is Joy Swain the daughter of Joe West?

[Bob]

I believe Joy Swain is Joe West's daughter, but I just asked Wim to confirm. Hopefully, he'll answer soon. In terms of people that believe the Warren Commission, I always find it funny how they think the information that the conspiracy theorists find is outlandish and unbelievable, but they think "their" facts are set in stone. Yeah right, like the "magic bullet" theory for instance.