More History Channel BS

[kenmurray]

As the History Channel continue on their "JFK Declassified" week, tonight's program we had to put up again with Gary Quack putting his two cents worth into it. Can we please have a JFK documentary without him in it, please? I wanted to throw my show at the TV set when he showed up yet again on another documentary.

[Bob]

kenmurray wrote:As the History Channel continue on their "JFK Declassified" week, tonight's program we had to put up again with Gary Quack putting his two cents worth into it. Can we please have a JFK documentary without him in it, please? I wanted to throw my show at the TV set when he showed up yet again on another documentary. Yes...I saw that too Ken. I've seen that once before, and Mack once again appears to try and be "neutral" in his approach to the assassination. But his persona was exposed in an obvious way. Mack said that some of the witnesses that died, passed on many years after the assassination. Yeah right Gary...people like Lee Bowers? Mack also said the 3 tramps were just that...tramps. All I can say is that Larry Dunkel...er...Gary Mack embarrasses himself everytime he opens his yap regarding the JFK assassination.There was also a good program on later that talked about the RFK assassination. I had seen it before as well. The program pretty much laid the shooting at the feet of Thane Cesar thanks to the work of Phillip Melanson and Lawrence Teeter. The program also talked about MK-Ultra and mind control and Sirhan. But the program also brought me back to thoughts about people like Mack and Vincent Bugliosi...people I once respected. You see, Melanson brought in a guy named Dan Muldea to help in the investigation. Muldea was once on the good side. But like Mack, somebody got to him and bought him off and Muldea changed his story 180 degrees and now places the assassination solely on Sirhan. Muldea says that, even though Sirhan never got closer than 3-6 feet away from RFK, and the fatal headshot was fired behind RFK's head from point blank range. In other words, exactly where Cesar was standing.

[ThomZajac]

Bob wrote-"...even though Sirhan never got closer than 3-6 feet away from RFK, and the fatal headshot was fired behind RFK's head from point blank range. In other words, exactly where Cesar was standing."It's worse than that- a witness, a reporter I think, saw Caesar draw his gun and shoot KENNEDY three times. I'll try to look him up later, and I'm pretty sure there is a youtube clip. The witness is very credible.I've long contended that the RFK assassination is frighteningly easy to solve (as far as the actual shooter goes)- so easy that it wouldn't even make a good CSI episode. RFK was killed by a bullet that entered behind his right ear, fired from point blank range. Sirhan was a hypnotized decoy. There may have been another shooter in addition to Caesar, and Shiran (blanks or whatever), but Caesar was clearly the man who fired the fatal shot. No doubt. Done. Not debatable. Irrefutable. Fact.

[tom jeffers]

now that we all agree, let's go out and change the world........ i get this vision of will ferrell trying to get everyone to streak at this party and he is obviously stoned out of his gourd and nobody bites but him....

[Bob]

Speaking of streaking, when the craze was at it's all-time height in the 70's, I did some streaking. Yeah...I was a little crazy in those days. I also jumped into Lake Michigan when it was below zero one New Year's day, wearing nothing but a swimming suit. Anyway, a sub shop in Milwaukee advertised that anyone who streaked into their shop would get a free sub. They were open until 2:00 am, and after a few beers with my buddies, we would sometimes streak into a sub shop and get our subs. Thankfully, no one got arrested or anything like that, but one time a buddy of ours who refused to streak himself, but was driving, locked his car doors for a minute or two after we came out of the sub shop. He had a pretty good laugh, although we weren't exactly chuckling as we were in a very visible section on the east side of Beertown. That turned out to be a very ironic moment, as my friend (the driver) was arrested in Daytona Beach not long after for skinny dipping in the Atlantic Ocean with a girl. Me and a couple of my fellow streakers bailed him out.

[ThomZajac]

My Gawd we're old. I was going to school in the snow belt in Upstate New York when streaking was in vogue, and so we had to do it, of course. Streaked across the main drag of our small town at night during a snowstorm. We weren't completely naked- had to wear something on our feet,and on another front, shrinkage was definitely a factor. By the way, where I was got twice as much snow as Buffalo! Snowiest place east of the Rocky Mountains. It was interesting for a while, but living there? Those people are NUTS!!!!

[Bob]

ThomZajac wrote:My Gawd we're old. I was going to school in the snow belt in Upstate New York when streaking was in vogue, and so we had to do it, of course. Streaked across the main drag of our small town at night during a snowstorm. We weren't completely naked- had to wear something on our feet,and on another front, shrinkage was definitely a factor. By the way, where I was got twice as much snow as Buffalo! Snowiest place east of the Rocky Mountains. It was interesting for a while, but living there? Those people are NUTS!!!!Coming from Wisconsin, I know all about snow. But my wife is from upstate NY, north of Buffalo and Syracuse, and you are right. Everytime we check the weather in the winter near her hometown, it seems that they just had a couple of feet of snow dumped on them. That's why living in FLA most of the time has it's virtues.Speaking of getting dumped on...as in bullshit...last night the History channel gave us another "special" that was so blatently bad and one sided, that even my dog left the room. I think it was titled The JFK Assassination: Beyond Consiracy. Any "special" with Gerald Posner in it tells you all you need to know. Basically, the "special" just piled on Lee, and didn't bring out any facts that refute any of the lone nutter stuff. Yes...I had seen this before, but like a bad car wreck, I still had to look...again. I know one thing though...the History channel is tired of hearing from me. I hope the same goes for some of you.

[kenmurray]

Bob wrote:ThomZajac wrote:My Gawd we're old. I was going to school in the snow belt in Upstate New York when streaking was in vogue, and so we had to do it, of course. Streaked across the main drag of our small town at night during a snowstorm. We weren't completely naked- had to wear something on our feet,and on another front, shrinkage was definitely a factor. By the way, where I was got twice as much snow as Buffalo! Snowiest place east of the Rocky Mountains. It was interesting for a while, but living there? Those people are NUTS!!!!Coming from Wisconsin, I know all about snow. But my wife is from upstate NY, north of Buffalo and Syracuse, and you are right. Everytime we check the weather in the winter near her hometown, it seems that they just had a couple of feet of snow dumped on them. That's why living in FLA most of the time has it's virtues.Speaking of getting dumped on...as in bullshit...last night the History channel gave us another "special" that was so blatently bad and one sided, that even my dog left the room. I think it was titled The JFK Assassination: Beyond Consiracy. Any "special" with Gerald Posner in it tells you all you need to know. Basically, the "special" just piled on Lee, and didn't bring out any facts that refute any of the lone nutter stuff. Yes...I had seen this before, but like a bad car wreck, I still had to look...again. I know one thing though...the History channel is tired of hearing from me. I hope the same goes for some of you.The computer cartoon geek Dale Myers was on one of those specials on there too. Also Dr. John Lattimer, who claims he solved the SBT by getting a duplicate carcano and going out in the woods with son and pretending to be Oswald lol. A urologist who thinks he's an expert. I'll take a forensic scientist like Cyril Wecht over Lattimer any time.

[kenmurray]

Last night the History channel concluded their week of JFK documentaries with one called "24 hours after" where they go through important events during the first 24 hours after the assassination. One event they discussed was when the secret service "stole" the body of JFK and the fight between them and the dallas officials where there were guns drawn and fisticuffs. And in the middle of this seeing all that was Jackie. Well you know who had to make a comment on that. Gary Quack got actually choked up about it because Jackie was a witness to that scene. I swear this guy must have it in writing for him to appear in every damn JFK documentary from now on, from the history channel to discovery. I got choked up too. Seeing Gary Quack again, I wanted to throw up.

[tom jeffers]

one of those shows has an animated reinactment of the shooting trying to convinceyou of the one bullet theory (hoax). first they talk about how everything aligns perfectly but in the reinactment showing the path of the bullet, they do not show connelley holding his hat after his wrist was supposed to have been shattered as pictured in the z-film. it's always those littles details that are left out.....then there is this cartoonish kennedy where his back attaches directly to his head with no neck and in the front a really long neck so they can show how the path hit him in his back and exit his throat. he looks like the hunchback of notre dame. you can find it on utube and look at it. his back collar goes to his head and in the front he's got this long goose neck which is totally out of purportion. if you know what to look at its almost comical.by the way bob, in your streaking days did you have the nick name "meat" or "pee wee"? just trying to visualize it here....lol