FORGIVE MY GRIEF

[katisha]

Dealey Joe wrote:I have obtained my firt copy of Forgive My Grief #1 by Penn Jones Jr.I want the other 3 but Damm thy are expensive when you find themI'll keep an eye out for you in my local 2nd hand bookshop, Joe. I bought my first JFK book (Johnny, we hardly knew ye) there, and have picked up a few more since. The owner keeps any Kennedy books she gets in for me for first refusal. Don't get your hopes up though: since my initial sweep through her stocks a coupla years ago she hasn't had much in. (She keeps trying to flog me The Kennedy Women, which has been taking up space in her 'Politics' section for months, despite my telling her that's not really the aspect I'm interested in )

[Phil Dragoo]

KatishaThe Kennedy Women is by Laurence Leamer. Laurence Leamer called me in I believe 2006 for a copy of the Monaco fire report on the suspicious death of billionaire Edmond Safra, December 3, 1999, in a fire set in his Monaco penthouse allegedly by former Ranger Ted Maher.Leamer was researching a book on Safra, who had appeared before the U.S. Senate Banking Committee regarding suspicious activity reports (SARs) concerning his New York-based Republic Bank, its 92 branches, its alleged involvement in laundering eight billion for the Russian mafia.I had written on Ted Maher, and the whole business online through the 2002 trial and he drew me out. Then scoffed at my suggestion of mafia involvement. I said, so you are the type of anticonspiratorialist who denies a second gun in the killing of Robert Kennedy, like Dan Moldea.It was then that Leamer surprised me by saying, "Oh, Dan's a very good friend of mine."Leamer can be found online saying as much as he did to me that day. He then said Ted was getting out the next year. And Ted was released in 2007, and the Monaco judge Hullin confirmed what I had been writing, that the verdict was decided before the trial.Banco del Gottardo had a branch in the lobby of the La Belle Epoque the building whose top two floors were Safra's penthouse.Banco del Gottardo was where Pavel Borodin did his laundry for the Kremlin renovation. Borodin was arrested New York January 17, 2001, en route the Bush Innaugural on extradition to Switzerland, and Putin subsequently bailed him for three mill.Leamer and his Kennedy Women are perhaps the flotsam and jetsam of the larger events.Republic was sold to HSBC the week after Safra's death for ten billion. The Safra widow's share was said to be three billion. When I once commented on Dominick Dunne's noting the widow's charitable generosity he exploded with "F--- you, Dragoo!" One always senses that flak indicates proximity.Further this deponent sayeth not.

[kenmurray]

Excellent post Phil. I do think Dan Moldea is a disinfo guy.http://www.jfklancer.com/hunt/moldeas.h ... -mold.html

[Bob]

kenmurray wrote:Excellent post Phil. I do think Dan Moldea is a disinfo guy.http://www.jfklancer.com/hunt/moldeas.h ... ndeed...on both counts. Moldea has become a sell out, just like Gary Mack. Muldea was especially embarrassing in this video, which had also had other folks in this forum like Fletcher Prouty and John Judge.http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/23934-1

[Phil Dragoo]

Killer stuff, Ken and BobMoldea cannot account for certain factors lethal to his argument:His bullet count does not include the two bullets in the kitchen door divider seen and photographed before LAPD destroyed the evidence.His logistics do not explain how Sirhan who was held two to three feet away from and in front of Robert Kennedy was still able to fire the four shots back to front, right to left, down to up, and point blank which medical examiner Thomas Noguchi describes.Moldea exonerates Cesar on the basis of questionable polygraphs--of the type Pena and Hernandez of the CIA-LAPD used--oh, and by the by, Aldrich Ames, the most destructive foreign spy to ever infect CIA feared his "flutter" and on advice of his KGB handler, took it and passed.Moldea plays fast and loose with the truth--but Lynn Mangan busts him for a lie, not to mention holds the key to the ballistics fiasco.Moldea in his video appearance is quite the peacock spouting his mob-dunnit baloney--but Judge is dynamite and smashes that--as does Prouty--with the final nail in the mob coffin, who had the power to plan it in meticulous detail and cover it up--for fifty years now.Prouty and Judge displayed inspiring passion. Moldea (and Blakey) push an untenable disinformation, that the cutouts and the low-level operational mechanics planned the operation--including creating Harvey and Lee beginning at the age of thirteen (1952).Jack White disputes that Murrett had anything to do with Oswald after the age of five.It wasn't a mob hit. NSAM 263 October 11, 1963 was pulling us out; NSAM 273 signed by LBJ the day after the funeral November 26, 1963, put us in--Moldea evokes a line from Frank Zappa Plastic People "they're all made out of plastic; when they melt they start to stink"--Pay no attention to the Pentagon and the CIA wanting their war--the mob did it.

[Michael Calder]

Phil Dragoo,I wonder if the Weisberg family would know the identity of the person Harold Weisberg refers to in the below LAPD report? The person is the son of show business people and was in his forties in 1968.Weisberg next met his informant again on June 10, 1968, in New York City after the assassination. At this time his informant told him that 3 weeks prior to the assassination he (the informant) received info that an attempt would be made on RFK here in California and that the attempt would take place while a large mass of people surrounded the senator. The informant relayed this information to the Kennedy campaign but they were not to appprehensive about it. The informant would not reveal to Weisberg from whom or where he obtained the information.Weisberg would not reveal the name of his informant except he stated he was a man in his 40's, has famous show business parents, shuns publicity and is currently involved in the same type work as he Weisberg, digging out the truth concerning the assassination of John F. Kennedy. www.jfkcia.com

[Bob]

Michael Calder wrote:Phil Dragoo,I wonder if the Weisberg family would know the identity of the person Harold Weisberg refers to in the below LAPD report? The person is the son of show business people and was in his forties in 1968.Weisberg next met his informant again on June 10, 1968, in New York City after the assassination. At this time his informant told him that 3 weeks prior to the assassination he (the informant) received info that an attempt would be made on RFK here in California and that the attempt would take place while a large mass of people surrounded the senator. The informant relayed this information to the Kennedy campaign but they were not to appprehensive about it. The informant would not reveal to Weisberg from whom or where he obtained the information.Weisberg would not reveal the name of his informant except he stated he was a man in his 40's, has famous show business parents, shuns publicity and is currently involved in the same type work as he Weisberg, digging out the truth concerning the assassination of John F. Kennedy. http://www.jfkcia.comMichael, I think I know somebody who might know. You might even know him. Actor Robert Vaughn from The Man from U.N.C.L.E., who also came from show business parents. Vaughn was very close to RFK as well. Vaughn wrote an article a little over a year ago concerning the RFK assassination as well...http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... Ironically, like RFK and myself, Vaughn's first two names are Robert Francis.

[Michael Calder]

Bob,Thanks for that link. Robert Vaughn suspecting what the truth is was comforting. His friend's conversation with Onassis is helpful. In the LAPD files a report of a rich man bragging (while intoxicated) that he made a large donation to a fund set up to finance RFK's murder makes sense. Economic Elite and the CIA. We've become the Romans. www.jfkcia.com

[Phil Dragoo]

Robert Vaughn was friends with Robert Kennedy, and never accepted the official explanation.Peter Evans' tale allows no role for CIA, so central to killing Robert Kennedy's brother.Further, Evans does a variation of the-mob-did-it vis-a-vis Onassis. With a large helping of Seymour Hersh-like character assassination.Absent even the slightest inkling that RFK posed an electoral threat to RMN, in addition to positioning himself to out those behind the JFK murder.The first half of the Mail article is a concise synopsis which correctly fingers Thane Eugene Cesar, Dan Moldea to the contrary notwithstanding.Onassis died thirty-five years ago, making him a perfect candidate for CIA deflection. It's a parlor game for the AFIO; the late Hunt pinned the tail on Johnson. Collect the whole set.

[Phil Dragoo]

Gerald McKnight is professor emeritus of history at Hood College, where he was chair of the History and Political Science Department. He is an expert on the assassinations of John F. Kennedy, Robert Kennedy and Martin Luther King. “McKnight is author of the books, The Last Crusade: Martin Luther King Jr., the FBI and the Poor People’s Campaign” (1998) and “Breach of Trust: How the Warren Commission Failed the Nation and Why” (2005). Gerald is also the co-director of the Harold Weisberg Archives. Housed at Hood College, the Weisberg Archives is the world’s largest private collection of government documents and public records relating to Kennedy’s assassination in Dallas Nov. 22, 1963. The archive also includes about 85,000 pages of FBI documents on the assassination of Martin Luther King Jr. All the government documents in the collection are in pristine condition. Once fully cataloged, the Hood Weisberg Archive will provide an accessible research capability unlike anything currently available. It will provide a unique research engine vastly superior to the main repository of Kennedy assassination records and documents housed at the National Archives and Records Administration in College Park, Md. JFK Lancer is proud to recognize the commitment Gerald McKnight has displayed in preserving the Weisberg Archives, which have been key to the evolution of the Kennedy assassination researcher. http://jfklancer.com/dallas06/index.html