Victoria Adams

[Barry E]

Anyone attach any significance to the testimony of Victoria Adams in 6H?

[dankbaar]

Explain yourself.Wim

[Barry E]

Whether anyone feels she is accurate in saying she came down the back staircase of the TSBD when she said she did, which would put her in a position of, as the Warren Report admitted, probably hearing or seeing a fleeing Oswald.

[Davyjones]

Hi Barry... thought I would answer your post! As I see it its not going to prove much whenever she walked down the stairs without say cctv to back her testimony up. Critics say she had a poor judgment of time and could have been 5 minutes before she walked down the stairs.Having said that ,critisism of her follows a pattern that the LNs use on testimony that indicates the WC wrong ie rubbishing the witness rather than take their evidence at face value. Its an old courtroom tactic still in use to this very day. I like evidence that is close to the event and has had minimum chance of interference so would go with her story that she was down the stairs about a minute after the last shot. Oswald was in the canteen!!!

[Barry E]

The Warren Report stated in 1964 that if Miss Adams was accurate with her time, then she probably would have heard or seen Oswald on the back stairs. It used the logic that since it "knew" Oswald committed the crime and descended the stairs immediately after the assassination (which he had to do to meet Officer Baker and Roy Truly in the second-floor lunchroom), then it was Miss Adams who was wrong if she failed to hear or see the assassin on the stairs. It thus concluded she came down the stairs later than she thought, AFTER Oswald had already passed the fourth floor while going down, and AFTER Baker and Roy Truly passed the fourth floor going up. It also said Miss Adams was wrong and had descended the stairs much later based on her comment in her testimony that when she arrived on the first floor, she saw and spoke to employees Bill Shelley and Billy Lovelady there. Shelley and Lovelady both claimed they remained outside the Depository for several minutes before returning and therefore, if Miss Adams saw them, she was mistaken and arrived there much later, after both men got back inside the building. What if I told you that co-worker Sandra Styles, who accompanied Miss Adams every step of the way but remarkably was never called as a Commission witness, verified that Miss Adams was telling the truth and did, in fact, descend the stairs when she said she did? What if I told you that Vicki Adams said she NEVER told the Commission she saw and spoke with Shelley and Lovelady, and that she actually had spoken to someone else on the first floor? Or Sandra Styles, who said she remembers that other person being on the first floor too, but DEFINITELY did not see Shelley and Lovelady there, even though she knew both men well? Or that a document exists the PROVES Miss Adams came down the stairs when she said she did, and also PROVES the Commission knew she was telling the truth about that incident three months in advance of when it wrote that she was wrong?

[Phil Dragoo]

Yesterday upon the stair I met a man who wasn’t there He wasn’t there again today Oh, how I wish he’d go away When I came home last night at three The man was waiting there for me But when I looked around the hall I couldn’t see him there at all! Go away, go away, don’t you come back any more! Go away, go away, and please don’t slam the door Last night I saw upon the stair A little man who wasn’t there He wasn’t there again today Oh, how I wish he’d go away "Antigonish" (1899)[2] http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004GN ... 846Product DescriptionOn November 22, 1963, a young Victoria Elizabeth Adams stood behind a fourth-floor window of the Texas School Book Depository in Dallas. She watched as John Kennedy was murdered in the streets below. Then, with a co-worker in tow, she ran down the back stairs of the building in order to get outside and determine what had happened. At that precise moment, her life changed forever.Unbeknownst to her but certainly in the forefront of the government's thinking was the fact that if Miss Adams was telling the truth, then she had descended those stairs at the same time Lee Oswald would have been on them as he made his escape from the sixth floor sniper's nest.Yet Miss Adams saw no one. And even though the stairs were old, wooden, and very creaky under any weight, she heard no one on them.Her story presented obvious problems for the Warren Commission’s conclusion that Oswald was the sole assassin. When Miss Adams was called to testify before a Commission attorney, she was quickly discredited, humiliated, and eventually branded a liar. Behind closed doors she pleaded with the government to conduct time tests of her actions if she wasn’t believed. She begged the government to question her co-workers, particularly the woman who had accompanied her down the stairs, if she was felt to have been inaccurate. But she was ignored.And so, knowing the truth of what she had done and now fearing for her life because of it, she went into hiding and became willing to die with that private knowledge.Intrigued by what little was available about Miss Adams, the author went in search of her. It took him 35 years to eventually find this elusive witness. Along the way, many of the rumors and speculations surrounding the JFK assassination were finally put to rest. And in the end, the truth of what Miss Adams did was discovered. This is an important story, unique in this mess surrounding the Kennedy assassination and buried for decades. It is an account the government did not want us to hear, and actually went to the extreme of fabricating evidence in order to prevent us from hearing it.This is more than just another book on the JFK assassination.Phil's note: From the above linked Product Description, it appears that Victoria Adam's exculpatory testimony was deemed “inconvenient” to the official propaganda by the firm of Dulles, Ford, McCloy & Rankin and their silent partners, pawns and puppeteers.I understand that a parallel testimony may be aired by Robert Groden in re the Depository secretary who gave Lee change for the soda machine at a time which precludes his presence in the Den of Dunkel.The Commission calls such witnesses “not credible.” In today's propaganda, the Posners, Bugliosis and their mini-mes sing, “Lalalala, I can't hear you.”I can, Mr. Ernest.And it sounds like credible exculpatory evidence to me.The rumble in the background is Arlen rolling in his crypt like a Natanz centrifuge.