JFK Assassination Plot Mirrored in 1961 France
JFK Assassination Plot Mirrored in 1961 France
This three-part series from Russ Baker's Who.What.Why. is from David Talbot's Inside the Devil's Chessboard: Allen Dulles, the CIA, and the Rise of the American Secret Government.It's very interesting reading. For instance, I never knew that JFK was feeling magnanimous towards Dulles when he was forced out from the CIA. Also, while the Kennedy brothers tried to get rid of most of the Dulles-sympathizers in the CIA, they still left a couple of key Dulles-loyalists at Langley. I'm talking about James Angleton and Richard Helms, who both still called on Dulles often, even after he "left" the CIA. That was a deadly mistake by JFK and RFK.http://whowhatwhy.org/2015/10/20/jfk-as ... ce-part-3/
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Bruce Patrick Brychek
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JFK Assassination Plot Mirrored in 1961 France:
10.26.2015Dear JFK Murder Solved Forum Members and Readers:10.26.2015 - Bob Fox Posted this Very Important and Probative Headline. Certainly the informationprovided is very significant in and of itself. I want to draw more attention to Bob and Ken's information,and generate and promote additional discussion.Bob, as always, provided important, powerful, and probative information, and Ken Murray as always,joins with underscoring with additional focus and points of information.I would like to focus in on what I consider a very important point that Bob raised that I have raised anddiscussed in other ways in the past, both here on the JFKMS Forum, and elsewhere, that still remains very important to me. Part of My Thesis is NOT THAT JFK AND RFK WERE STUPID OR ILL INTENTIONED.THEY WERE CHEATED, DECEIVED, AND LIED TO ABOUT THE TRUTH BEYOND THEIR COMBINED INTELLIGENCEAND RESOURCES. FAILURE ULTIMATELY WAS THEIR ONLY OPTION - ASSASSINATION - COUP D'ETAT - DEATH - REMOVAL - BECAUSE THE CARDS WERE SO POWERFULLY STACKED AGAINST THEM.Bob refers to JFK's magnanimity towards Dulles. I have previously called this and other actions by both JFKand RFK their "JFK and RFK Fatalistic Flaws." Perhaps you can analyze and discuss this point additionally.I have many friends like this. They are brilliant. They can build or design a cell phone or computer. But theycan't turn them on. You must know at least one person like this.Bob points out JFK's apparent "ignorance" to the depth of Dulles' Controls, Powers, Tentacles, and Totally LoyalSupporter's, James Jesus Angelton, and Richard Helms, to which I add Lyman L. Lemnitzer, Ed Geary Lansdale, Lieutenant General Victor H. Krulak, David Atlee Phillips, Theodore "Ted The White Ghost" Shackley, MAXWELL TAYLOR, and others.04.14.2006 I originally Posted the Probative Headline that JFK FIRST LEARNED ABOUT THE DEPRESSION IN HARVARD,FROM A BOOK, from the book THE DARK SIDE OF CAMELOT by Seymour M. Hersh, page 16. Hersh basher's save yourangst, as this has been confirmed by numerous sources, including Ardent JFK Supporter's.I will Re-Post that Previous Post after Posting this so that those who are interested can also review that and consider that in conjunction with Bob and Ken's information together with what I previously entitled "JFK and RFK's Fatalistic Flaws."Note I was not JFK and RFK Bashing then, or now. I was focusing on my perceptions of JFK and RFK's Fatalistic Flaws.JFK and RFK failed to grasp the "LIMITATIONS OF THEIR PERCEIVED POWERS." My Opinion.The attitude of the CIA and the Military Industrial Complex is best explained to me by General Douglas MacArthurwhen he spoke:"WHO ARE THESE TEMPORARY OCCUPANTS OF THE WHITE HOUSE WHO ACTUALLY THINK THAT THEY RUN THIS COUNTRY ?"After JFK's removal this omnipresent Operational Attitude of the CIA and Military Industrial Complex has only increased it's Growth of Control, Influence, and Power.JFK and RFK's Fatalistic Flaws are additionally underscored in my perceptions by their utter blind subservienceto General Maxwell Taylor. RFK was so stricken with General Maxwell Taylor that RFK named one of his sonsMaxwell Taylor Kennedy. General Taylor missed the Christening.RFK often lobbied to JFK on behalf of General Maxwell Taylor, but both JFK and RFK knew nothing of the REALSECRET TEAM AND THE COMBINED BLIND LOYALTY TO ALLEN DULLES, THE CIA, THE SECRET TEAM, AND THEIRCOMBINED POWER STRUCTURE EVEN AFTER JFK OSTENSIBLY REMOVED DULLES, BISSELL, AND CABELL.JFK and RFK tried to change and improve things in their lifetimes and ours. Their dedication, loyalty, and visions to try to achieve the Very Best For America, which they had the Knowledge, Vision, and Wisdom to see, was facing A FORK IN THE ROAD for its banking, business, corporate, educational, ethical, financial, legal, military, moral, political future that was a CATASTRPHIC COURSE VARIATION FOR THE LASTING FUTURE OF AMERICA.WE ARE "HERE" TODAY BECAUSE JFK, MLK, AND RFK ARE DEAD. AND NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE, CAN BE DONE, OR WILL BE DONE. My Opinion.I strongly recommend and suggest that the serious JFK and RFK Researcher read both of the following books ofColonel L. Fletcher Prouty. He is the real life person personified by actor Donald Sutherland in Oliver Stone'sMonumental Movie: JFK:1. JFK, THE CIA, VIET NAM, AND THE PLOT TO ASSASSINATE JOHN F. KENNEDY.2. THE SECRET TEAM: THE CIA AND ITS ALLIES IN CONTROL OF THE UNITED STATES AND THE WORLD.Many of my facts, points of information, and my developmental thought processes should be properly attributed to PROUTY where I fail to mention that. I'm not big on Footnotes.Any additional analyses, inteviews, investigations, readings, research, studies, thoughts, or writings on any aspectof this Subject Matter ?Bear in mind that we are trying to attract and educate a Whole New Generation of JFK Researcher's who may not beas well versed as you.Comments ?Respectfully,BB.
Re: JFK Assassination Plot Mirrored in 1961 France:
Bruce Patrick Brychek wrote:10.26.2015Dear JFK Murder Solved Forum Members and Readers:10.26.2015 - Bob Fox Posted this Very Important and Probative Headline. Certainly the informationprovided is very significant in and of itself. I want to draw more attention to Bob and Ken's information,and generate and promote additional discussion.Bob, as always, provided important, powerful, and probative information, and Ken Murray as always,joins with underscoring with additional focus and points of information.I would like to focus in on what I consider a very important point that Bob raised that I have raised anddiscussed in other ways in the past, both here on the JFKMS Forum, and elsewhere, that still remains very important to me. Part of My Thesis is NOT THAT JFK AND RFK WERE STUPID OR ILL INTENTIONED.THEY WERE CHEATED, DECEIVED, AND LIED TO ABOUT THE TRUTH BEYOND THEIR COMBINED INTELLIGENCEAND RESOURCES. FAILURE ULTIMATELY WAS THEIR ONLY OPTION - ASSASSINATION - COUP D'ETAT - DEATH - REMOVAL - BECAUSE THE CARDS WERE SO POWERFULLY STACKED AGAINST THEM.Bob refers to JFK's magnanimity towards Dulles. I have previously called this and other actions by both JFKand RFK their "JFK and RFK Fatalistic Flaws." Perhaps you can analyze and discuss this point additionally.I have many friends like this. They are brilliant. They can build or design a cell phone or computer. But theycan't turn them on. You must know at least one person like this.Bob points out JFK's apparent "ignorance" to the depth of Dulles' Controls, Powers, Tentacles, and Totally LoyalSupporter's, James Jesus Angelton, and Richard Helms, to which I add Lyman L. Lemnitzer, Ed Geary Lansdale, Lieutenant General Victor H. Krulak, David Atlee Phillips, Theodore "Ted The White Ghost" Shackley, MAXWELL TAYLOR, and others.04.14.2006 I originally Posted the Probative Headline that JFK FIRST LEARNED ABOUT THE DEPRESSION IN HARVARD,FROM A BOOK, from the book THE DARK SIDE OF CAMELOT by Seymour M. Hersh, page 16. Hersh basher's save yourangst, as this has been confirmed by numerous sources, including Ardent JFK Supporter's.I will Re-Post that Previous Post after Posting this so that those who are interested can also review that and consider that in conjunction with Bob and Ken's information together with what I previously entitled "JFK and RFK's Fatalistic Flaws."Note I was not JFK and RFK Bashing then, or now. I was focusing on my perceptions of JFK and RFK's Fatalistic Flaws.JFK and RFK failed to grasp the "LIMITATIONS OF THEIR PERCEIVED POWERS." My Opinion.The attitude of the CIA and the Military Industrial Complex is best explained to me by General Douglas MacArthurwhen he spoke:"WHO ARE THESE TEMPORARY OCCUPANTS OF THE WHITE HOUSE WHO ACTUALLY THINK THAT THEY RUN THIS COUNTRY ?"After JFK's removal this omnipresent Operational Attitude of the CIA and Military Industrial Complex has only increased it's Growth of Control, Influence, and Power.JFK and RFK's Fatalistic Flaws are additionally underscored in my perceptions by their utter blind subservienceto General Maxwell Taylor. RFK was so stricken with General Maxwell Taylor that RFK named one of his sonsMaxwell Taylor Kennedy. General Taylor missed the Christening.RFK often lobbied to JFK on behalf of General Maxwell Taylor, but both JFK and RFK knew nothing of the REALSECRET TEAM AND THE COMBINED BLIND LOYALTY TO ALLEN DULLES, THE CIA, THE SECRET TEAM, AND THEIRCOMBINED POWER STRUCTURE EVEN AFTER JFK OSTENSIBLY REMOVED DULLES, BISSELL, AND CABELL.JFK and RFK tried to change and improve things in their lifetimes and ours. Their dedication, loyalty, and visions to try to achieve the Very Best For America, which they had the Knowledge, Vision, and Wisdom to see, was facing A FORK IN THE ROAD for its banking, business, corporate, educational, ethical, financial, legal, military, moral, political future that was a CATASTRPHIC COURSE VARIATION FOR THE LASTING FUTURE OF AMERICA.WE ARE "HERE" TODAY BECAUSE JFK, MLK, AND RFK ARE DEAD. AND NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE, CAN BE DONE, OR WILL BE DONE. My Opinion.I strongly recommend and suggest that the serious JFK and RFK Researcher read both of the following books ofColonel L. Fletcher Prouty. He is the real life person personified by actor Donald Sutherland in Oliver Stone'sMonumental Movie: JFK:1. JFK, THE CIA, VIET NAM, AND THE PLOT TO ASSASSINATE JOHN F. KENNEDY.2. THE SECRET TEAM: THE CIA AND ITS ALLIES IN CONTROL OF THE UNITED STATES AND THE WORLD.Many of my facts, points of information, and my developmental thought processes should be properly attributed to PROUTY where I fail to mention that. I'm not big on Footnotes.Any additional analyses, inteviews, investigations, readings, research, studies, thoughts, or writings on any aspectof this Subject Matter ?Bear in mind that we are trying to attract and educate a Whole New Generation of JFK Researcher's who may not beas well versed as you.Comments ?Respectfully,BB.As always, Bruce brings some excellent insight and analysis about what was facing JFK when he was President. Let's face it, JFK and RFK pissed off a LOT of powerful people. Not just people in the CIA, but also in the Military Industrial Complex (with Cuba and Vietnam), Big Banking (the changes that JFK was making to the Federal Reserve), Big Oil (the oil depletion allowance that JFK was going to change) and the Mob (who RFK was going after with zeal).When you mess with those folks, it's just a matter of time before they find a way to eliminate you. All of the above forces were involved in the events which transpired on 11/22/1963.