The second .222 casing

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Johan van Leeuwen
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The second .222 casing

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On http://www.jfkmurdersolved.com/rademacher.htm is says:

"John found lots of thing in his "digs." He found coins, pistol handles, pens, license plates, etc. and he found another .222 casing over on the opposite side of the pergola."

Just some questions...

Did Rademacher find all of these things on the grassy knol? Was the other casing of the same brand/type/serie/time? If so, is there a way to determine if the casings are fired in a certain timeframe? Was the casing found at the position Files claimed to have been standing the one with the dents or was it the other one? Does Files say anything about a second casing?
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Re: The second .222 casing

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Johan van Leeuwen wrote:On http://www.jfkmurdersolved.com/rademacher.htm is says:"John found lots of thing in his "digs." He found coins, pistol handles, pens, license plates, etc. and he found another .222 casing over on the opposite side of the pergola."Just some questions...Did Rademacher find all of these things on the grassy knol? Was the other casing of the same brand/type/serie/time? If so, is there a way to determine if the casings are fired in a certain timeframe? Was the casing found at the position Files claimed to have been standing the one with the dents or was it the other one? Does Files say anything about a second casing?



He found these items all over the south side of Dealey Plaza. The other casing is exactly the same caliber, but has no dentmark.

Wim
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Re: The second .222 casing

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dankbaar wrote:Johan van Leeuwen wrote:On http://www.jfkmurdersolved.com/rademacher.htm is says:"John found lots of thing in his "digs." He found coins, pistol handles, pens, license plates, etc. and he found another .222 casing over on the opposite side of the pergola."Just some questions...Did Rademacher find all of these things on the grassy knol? Was the other casing of the same brand/type/serie/time? If so, is there a way to determine if the casings are fired in a certain timeframe? Was the casing found at the position Files claimed to have been standing the one with the dents or was it the other one? Does Files say anything about a second casing?He found these items all over the south side of Dealey Plaza. The other casing is exactly the same caliber, but has no dentmark.Wim

Wim, what about the rest of the properties of the 2 casings? Is that available somewhere? I understood that some info is used to determine when and where the casings were produced etc....
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I guess Rademacher still has that.

Wim
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Post by Johan van Leeuwen »

dankbaar wrote:I guess Rademacher still has that.Wim

Ok Rademacher has it, but do we know how he drew his conclusions?
Don't you think that we should check this data on such an important piece of evidence?
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Johan van Leeuwen wrote:dankbaar wrote:I guess Rademacher still has that.WimOk Rademacher has it, but do we know how he drew his conclusions?Don't you think that we should check this data on such an important piece of evidence?


He still has the rest of what he found, coins, etc. I have the two shells that he found.

Wim
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photo's?

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Wim,
do you have high resolution photo's of the casings apart from the ones already on the site? Photo's on which all texts that are on it are visible/readable (in particular of the bottom)?
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Yes I have those, I will have to look them up.

Wim
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Re: The second .222 casing

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My .02Facts:#1 Rademacher says he found two casings, ok we will accept that.#2 He claims they were found one on each end/side of the pergola. OK we accept that.#3 James Files says he fired one shot and one shot only. OK we accept that.#4 James Files left one casing on the top fence rail where he fired the shot. OK we accept that.So what happened?I say someone found that casing on 11-22-1963 and stuck it in their pocket? Sightseer or police ect.Then at some later date decided it was a bad idea to conceal that possible evidence, so what to do?Put it back, then to confuse the issue get another casing, .222 was very popular and easy to find, and place them in two different spots near the area of the Pergola, in case ever they should be found?It is my understanding neither was found at the spot where James Files placed the one casing?Thoughts?
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Re: The second .222 casing

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Before I give you my thoughts I got a couple of questions. Question #1 Did Jimmy know that the plotters wanted a shot from behind Kennedy and not the front? Question #2 Why would a professional leave evidence behind that could possibly be used to arrest him?
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